Content Provider lucky1 Posted June 18, 2021 Content Provider Share Posted June 18, 2021 Time to present my latest development, I have been working on the last couple of months. Searching for components on aliexpress I stumbled over some new flexible panels with 128x64 resolution and P1.875 dotpitch (https://de.aliexpress.com/item/1005001803946216.html), which brought me to the idea to double the output resolution of 128x32 pinball displays to 256x64 dots using two of those panels. There are a several different versions of those panels available using different chipsets. Make sure you get a NON-EPWM chipset like MBI5124 on the panels from above. The pcb designs, firmware and WPC95 frame design can currently be found in the beta branch on github https://github.com/lucky01/PIN2DMD/. Shared PCBWay project is here There are currently two pcb designs tested by me . On is based on through-hole parts with a DevEBox STM32H743VIT board as described here is here https://pin2dmd.com/hardware/#2.2 and the other is based on a custom made pcb populated with SMD parts which can be ordered fully assembled here https://www.pcbway.com/project/shareproject/PIN2DMD_EVO256x64_RGB_LED_Dotmatrix_Pinball_Display_Controller.html Here are some pictures of my EVO board design. The good thing is that thanks to 1.8mm dotpitch the display area has a size of 480x120mm and therefore still fits into standard pinball machines using a modified speakpanel with smaller speakers. I designed one for my WPC95 machines combining laser-cut black and transparent acrylic in different thickness. Here are some pictures of that speakerpanel Flexible panels are normally attached to the surface using magnets . To mount them to the EVO board I had the idea to use DIN921 M4x6 large head screws to which the magnets stick. The pin2dmd firmware has integrated 2 scaling algorithms which you can choose in the onscreen menu to display the content made for 128x32 on the 256x64. That already looks quite impressive but Steve and I also modified the editor to allow to replace complete pictures or parts of a picture with high resolution content. The new version of the editor is in the beta folder on google drive. I hope that some talented artists take that opportunity to upgrade the experience of our beloved pinball machines. Rene368 made a Nucleo STM32H743 based design which he shared here https://vpuniverse.com/forums/topic/5348-pin2dmd-evo-hd-upgrade-to-256x64-resolution/page/9/#comment-61108 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider Terranigma Posted June 18, 2021 Content Provider Share Posted June 18, 2021 That looks amazing! Thank you for sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mT0m Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 What to say ..... SPECTACULAR !!!!! Too bad .... I just got my first order from PCBWay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider lucky1 Posted June 18, 2021 Author Content Provider Share Posted June 18, 2021 8 minutes ago, T0mT0m said: What to say ..... SPECTACULAR !!!!! Too bad .... I just got my first order from PCBWay This is not a general replacement for PIN2DMD 128x32 as it is larger (480x120mm) and needs a modified speaker panel The PIN2DMD 128x32 is still the best choice as a drop in replacement for old plasma displays (320x80mm) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider Terranigma Posted June 18, 2021 Content Provider Share Posted June 18, 2021 Do you have a release date for this and I assume FW 4.11 will be required yes? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider lucky1 Posted June 18, 2021 Author Content Provider Share Posted June 18, 2021 Just now, Terranigma said: Do you have a release date for this and I assume FW 4.11 will be required yes? Thanks! https://github.com/lucky01/PIN2DMD/tree/beta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider lucky1 Posted June 18, 2021 Author Content Provider Share Posted June 18, 2021 Still some work to do on the dmddevice.dll but the firmware and the editor should be working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider lucky1 Posted June 18, 2021 Author Content Provider Share Posted June 18, 2021 If you order some panels make sure you use the ones from the link above with MBI5124 chipset. There are a lot of different versions with different chipsets out there. Only NON-EPWM chipsets are currently supported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappelbox Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 saruman looks really impressive! well done with the new panels, firmware and all other stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latenite04 Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Great work, that looks amazing. Were there any hardware changes to the EVO board or is it just the size. Would a v4 shield with the new firmware be able to run these panels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mT0m Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 1 hour ago, lucky1 said: Questo non è un sostituto generale per PIN2DMD 128x32 in quanto è più grande (480x120 mm) e necessita di un pannello dell'altoparlante modificato Il PIN2DMD 128x32 è ancora la scelta migliore come sostituto dei vecchi display al plasma (320x80mm) Concordo pienamente !! Ma rimane comunque una fantastica modifica da effettuare.... come i nuovi remake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider lucky1 Posted June 18, 2021 Author Content Provider Share Posted June 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, latenite04 said: Great work, that looks amazing. Were there any hardware changes to the EVO board or is it just the size. Would a v4 shield with the new firmware be able to run these panels? V4 shield will not work because it uses two independed HUb75 ports. Additionally it uses a STM32H7 @400Mhz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goredaimon Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Very nice, Lucky1! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueno92 Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Hey Lucky1 - good to see those flexible panels come in useful after all!!! Wow, if you post a picture of that speaker panel in machine, you are really going to have colordmd camp steamed up!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider malenko Posted June 18, 2021 Content Provider Share Posted June 18, 2021 well fuck, I want one. I dont have the time or ability to make one, gonna sell me one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider lucky1 Posted June 18, 2021 Author Content Provider Share Posted June 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, malenko said: well fuck, I want one. I dont have the time or ability to make one, gonna sell me one? No ! My prototypes are hand soldered and I don´t sell them. You have to wait for someone else to make them. Sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider malenko Posted June 19, 2021 Content Provider Share Posted June 19, 2021 12 hours ago, lucky1 said: I hope that some talented artists take that opportunity to upgrade the experience of our beloved pinball machines. That'll make that part hard to do then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueno92 Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 @malenko, trueno92 from the lw3 pinside thread, here. Once more of this develops, ill try to get some done. Im curious how existing work looks when its upscaled.. i hope it isnt too ugly.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider lucky1 Posted June 19, 2021 Author Content Provider Share Posted June 19, 2021 2 hours ago, trueno92 said: @malenko, trueno92 from the lw3 pinside thread, here. Once more of this develops, ill try to get some done. Im curious how existing work looks when its upscaled.. i hope it isnt too ugly.. The picture of Saruman I posted above is upscaled using Scale2X scaler mode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumblor Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 Wow @lucky1that looks incredible. Even with the upscaling it still looks super impressive. Thanks for all your hard work and ongoing commitment to this project. Your are making a lot of pinball people very happy. Any idea when the new evo design will be ready to release on github? Keen to get building! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider lucky1 Posted June 19, 2021 Author Content Provider Share Posted June 19, 2021 15 hours ago, lucky1 said: https://github.com/lucky01/PIN2DMD/tree/beta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumblor Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 (edited) Brilliant cheers 🤘 now all we need is for the stm32h743 to come back into stock.... Edit apologies I see the github link is posted *twice* above. Early morning... 😑 Edited June 19, 2021 by stumblor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider Terranigma Posted June 19, 2021 Content Provider Share Posted June 19, 2021 2 hours ago, lucky1 said: https://github.com/lucky01/PIN2DMD/tree/beta Would you be able to upload a centroid and Gerber at all? I understand we can generate them ourselves but for a brand new project I would feel much more confident if they were produced like the previous ones you have done. If not that is ok, I'm keen to get a batch done asap and just want to make sure everything is correct. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueno92 Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 4 hours ago, lucky1 said: The picture of Saruman I posted above is upscaled using Scale2X scaler mode How do animations look? Does the current processor have enough power to colorize 64 color and upscale? Wow that looks amazing!! Would love to see it installed in a game running full colorizarion!@ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olschool Posted June 19, 2021 Share Posted June 19, 2021 Awesome work, that looks amazing. 😍 Where do you found LOTR pinball animation ? need one for my pin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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