New release: v2.2.0 BETA2

[freezy]

I'm trying to reproduce the 32-bit pup issue. I've got pup working on both 32 and 64 bit now, and was trying to spot a difference between the two. It all looks the same to me. Slow-mo vids of chicks running along the beach. And the Hoff.

 

@lucky1 I need more info than "some pups aren't triggered". Can you please get your testers in here so they can help me reproduce and fix?

[halen]

Following your tutorial and reading the messages the colored rom should look like this:

 

altcolor

├── cp_16 │

           ├── cp_16.cRZ │

           

── ChampionPub │

           ├── ChampionPub.cRZ │

           

BALLY_Champion_Pub ├

           ──BALLY_Champion_Pub.cRZ

          

 Everything is working. One question: How should I do for the case above (Champion Pub) in Pinball FX? How should I name the rom?

[CarnyPriest]

https://github.com/freezy/dmd-extensions#game-names

[lucky1]

13 hours ago, freezy said:

I'm trying to reproduce the 32-bit pup issue. I've got pup working on both 32 and 64 bit now, and was trying to spot a difference between the two. It all looks the same to me. Slow-mo vids of chicks running along the beach. And the Hoff.

 

@lucky1 I need more info than "some pups aren't triggered". Can you please get your testers in here so they can help me reproduce and fix?

 

Did you test with the baywatch vni colorization and the plugin active ? 

[freezy]

Yes, but that shouldn't matter, right? Since Pup needs the original frames.. Unless they are passed to Pup after colorizing. I'll check.

 

@halen Please open a new thread.

[Cliffy]

20 hours ago, freezy said:

I'm trying to reproduce the 32-bit pup issue. I've got pup working on both 32 and 64 bit now, and was trying to spot a difference between the two. It all looks the same to me. Slow-mo vids of chicks running along the beach. And the Hoff.

 

@lucky1 I need more info than "some pups aren't triggered". Can you please get your testers in here so they can help me reproduce and fix?

I'm happy to help, @freezy

I provided @lucky1 with a slew of tests with all formats and with all available dll's and plugins, 32 and 64 bit. I run desktop mode only, windowed full screen. The 64 bit dll,s seem to trigger pup packs fine with all formats- pal/vni, pal/fsq (lucky only), pac and cRZ. The problem seems to be the 32 bit dll.

This morning I video captured g5k's The Addams Family 2.3.2 with the movie version pup pack. 

This pup pack will immediately let you know if it's going to work properly or not. When working properly it will start with the movie preview even before coin-up. If it doesn't start with the preview I know it will not trigger by pup captures and only by switches, ie, ball drain and launch.

The 32 bit dmddevice dll's are dated 5/25/2023 ver 2.1.3.0 and 7/24/2023 ver 2.2.0.0

2.1.3.0 works flawlessly. 2.2.0.0 does not. 

 

Links to videos below and named by the dll file date, ie, addams-vni-525dll.mp4

https://drive.google.com/file/d/10gJVQb75Ax23NgEBR6fM7H1GdyBKR2cb/view?usp=sharing

 

and addams-vni-724dll.mp4

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RAAu-AGJTiN21XWPbSgY8NGDjJ_wCbgR/view?usp=sharing

 

Note that I actually played these and was terrible but the point is made. I also recorded at 25fps to save space so may look less than smooth.

 

A final note here; I did try using ball control on the non-triggering 7/24 dll and when using ball control every pup video triggers. This is not representative of actual game play, however.

 

I hope this helps and happy to provide any other detailed info you may require.

 

[freezy]

@Cliffy Awesome, thanks a lot! Will test this hopefully later today. When you test, do you always have colorizations enabled through the plugin? If so, I assume that you got a 64-bit plugin from @lucky1? And if that's the case, did you test PAL/VNI, or PAC?

[freezy]

@Cliffy Where can I get the movie version pup pack? Can't seem to find it here, only the TV version.

 

When you say "movie preview" - Basically if I see the Paramount logo without doing anything, it means it works?

[PEandS1Ws]

20 minutes ago, freezy said:

@Cliffy Where can I get the movie version pup pack? Can't seem to find it here, only the TV version.

 

When you say "movie preview" - Basically if I see the Paramount logo without doing anything, it means it works?

Check your PM

[lucky1]

3 hours ago, freezy said:

And if that's the case, did you test PAL/VNI

 

Yes, to make sure you both have the same setup he used pal/vni

[Cliffy]

4 hours ago, freezy said:

@Cliffy Where can I get the movie version pup pack? Can't seem to find it here, only the TV version.

 

When you say "movie preview" - Basically if I see the Paramount logo without doing anything, it means it works?

I can send it to you if you don't have it. The movie preview is the original trailer. If you see the logo only then it's NOT working. The shorter video I posted shows the movie trailer starting immediately on startup and plays the entire trailer until a game is started

[Cliffy]

4 hours ago, freezy said:

@Cliffy Awesome, thanks a lot! Will test this hopefully later today. When you test, do you always have colorizations enabled through the plugin? If so, I assume that you got a 64-bit plugin from @lucky1? And if that's the case, did you test PAL/VNI, or PAC?

I tested ONLY pal/vni and yes the 64 bit plugin is Luckys.  HOWEVER- Important note here; I disabled the standalone pin2color.dll's for this test. And I ONLY tested the 32 bit dmddevice.dll's as  stated in the original post. One dated 5/25 and the other 7/24

[freezy]

17 minutes ago, Cliffy said:

I can send it to you if you don't have it.

Yes, please. I have something now, but it doesn't seem to work.

 

17 minutes ago, Cliffy said:

If you see the logo only then it's NOT working

By "Paramout logo", I mean this:

 

I guess that's the trailer, i.e. it's working?

[Cliffy]

1 hour ago, freezy said:

Yes, please. I have something now, but it doesn't seem to work.

 

By "Paramout logo", I mean this:

 

I guess that's the trailer, i.e. it's working?

yes as long as its not stuck at the logo. At least if the logo does start up thats a good sign its going to work. If it starts with the house and lightning it's not going to trigger.

hold a minute. let me put it on my drive.... oh and will you be testing desktop? I can include my pinupplayer.ini too so it's setup as you see in my vids

 

[freezy]

Yes, desktop please!

 

Thanks

[Cliffy]

3 minutes ago, freezy said:

Yes, desktop please!

 

Thanks

Ok link sent. It's the taf_l7 movie version with everything pre setup for desktop. Test with your 64 bit dll and then the 32 bit  and you should see the difference. Best of luck and thanks as always Freezy

[freezy]

Thanks! I'll report back here if I have more questions.

[freezy]

It was the de-duping. None of 32-bit or 64-bit work with latest. I don't know where the info that 32-bit works and 64-bit doesn't came from. Maybe next time, having testers reporting to me directly instead of Chinese Telephone would help getting the correct info in the first place.

 

@NailBuster Any idea why Pup needs duplicated frames? I'll send you a build with and without de-duping enabled, so you can repro.

[Cliffy]

9 minutes ago, freezy said:

I don't know where the info that 32-bit works and 64-bit doesn't came from

Thats the reverse for me. 64 bit works, 32 bit doesnt

[freezy]

Yes, the other way around. But I tested it before, and the trailer doesn't play on neither 32 nor 64 bit.

[Cliffy]

24 minutes ago, freezy said:

Yes, the other way around. But I tested it before, and the trailer doesn't play on neither 32 nor 64 bit.

here's the dlls I use that are working for me, 32 and 64. Oh and of course make sure you have nailbusters 64 bit pup dll plugin installed correctly too

workingdlls.zip

[freezy]

From this zip, 32-bit works (it's 2.1.3 which doesn't de-dupe), 64-bit (which is a 2.2.0 build and de-dupes) doesn't. For me, at least.

 

I'll check with @NailBuster what's going on.

 

In any case, thanks a lot for your help, very appreciated!

[Cliffy]

51 minutes ago, freezy said:

Maybe next time, having testers reporting to me directly instead of Chinese Telephone would help getting the correct info in the first place.

All you had to do was ask  

[freezy]

6 minutes ago, Cliffy said:

All you had to do was ask  

 

Ask whom? Do you think I would have gotten an answer?

[Cliffy]

Just now, freezy said:

 

Ask whom? Do you think I would have gotten an answer?

From me? Absolutely.