Content Provider lucky1 Posted November 20, 2015 Author Content Provider Share Posted November 20, 2015 Having fun with this now. Thanks to all involved. I will upload some videos later but here are some init feedback. (I downloaded the latest test vpinmame and pin2dmd firmware.) Carny, I can confim the RGB panel will work with just one of the panels. You will get the right half of the screen displayed. I am using a PC power supply to provide 5V to the RGB panel and PIN2DMD controller, so only one USB cable connected Here are my test observation so far with vPinmame. - Colorize DMD feature works as expected. Set the 4 different colors and feature works great. - However, when the 4 color "Colorize DMD" option is unchecked, vPinMame app allows you to pick a primary color for the DMD, i,e red palette or green or blue, etc. I don't think this palette info is sent to PIN2DMD controller, so you end up with last used palette as randr mentioned in previous post For example, trying to set color to green or blue does not work. PIN2DMD uses the previous palette. I think vPinmame just needs to add palette support for this use case also when sending to PIN2DMD green.png blue.png I did increase the RGB brightness level by a factor of 4, just personal taste here, by opening rgb_out.c and modifying the rgbperiod line to int rgbperiod[4] = {800,1200,2560,5120}; It looks like largest value supported is 0x2FF which is 12287, I tried as high as 10240 Thanks for your feedback. The reason why I don´t want to take this setting from vpinmame is, that there is no chance to avoid that the palette get´s overwritten. When you play Stern Tables with SmartDMD support it is essential that the palette numbers match to the coding in the ROM file and if Palette 0 always get´s crashed by PinMAME you get the wrong colors. You have to upload the palettes before you start the table by using my pindmd.exe. What you want to have is easy to achieve when you activate the colorize button and set the 4 colors to the 4 shades of green or blue. This is in my opinion a good workaround until pinmame fully supports 16 color palettes. I have a idea how this can be done but I have to talk with Toxie about it. However I´m open to new ideas how this can be achieved. About the timing - Do you play with sunglasses on ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider CarnyPriest Posted November 20, 2015 Content Provider Share Posted November 20, 2015 Having fun with this now. Thanks to all involved. I will upload some videos later but here are some init feedback. (I downloaded the latest test vpinmame and pin2dmd firmware.) Carny, I can confim the RGB panel will work with just one of the panels. You will get the right half of the screen displayed. I am using a PC power supply to provide 5V to the RGB panel and PIN2DMD controller, so only one USB cable connected Thanks. Good to know that I should be able to run one panel. I'll check for output from the headers with a multimeter. If I'm getting an output signal then maybe I'm just not supplying enough power. Was going to pull out my 5V meanwell bench power supply to test the LED strips anyway. That should be more than enough. I'll try that later this afternoon. Also, have to make sure that I did not assemble the board backwards! I followed the picture here: http://vpuniverse.com/forums/topic/2219-pin2dmd-color-pindmd-compatible-interface-with-led-rgb-color-dmd/page-20#entry24622 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider steve45 Posted November 20, 2015 Content Provider Share Posted November 20, 2015 whether at the moment the program to edit colors in real pinballs, it's only go-DMD and pinball browser ?? Pinball Browser can only be used to colorize Sterns by patching the rom and uploading the right Palette (or storing it in the SD card). goDMD editor or pin2dmd editor which will be the Name of the final release can do colorzation for all kind of real pinball machines that are compatible with pin2dmd. It will be released soon including a tutorial how to do it. First release will support uploading custom palettes, and switching of palettes based on keyframes. Next release will also support complete replacement of frames using higher color depth or different image scences at all. Cheers Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider CarnyPriest Posted November 20, 2015 Content Provider Share Posted November 20, 2015 Yee-haw! Used a PC PSU to power. Also I originally had the data cable plugged into the HUB08 header instead of the HUB75. Both panels test Ok. Now I'm just waiting for a second data cable from the seller. I still haven't figured out how to use the config tool to route the output signal to the PinDMD header. I guess that's less of an issue. I wasn't planning on using this for a regular pinball DMD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Pinball Browser can only be used to colorize Sterns by patching the rom and uploading the right Palette (or storing it in the SD card). goDMD editor or pin2dmd editor which will be the Name of the final release can do colorzation for all kind of real pinball machines that are compatible with pin2dmd. It will be released soon including a tutorial how to do it. First release will support uploading custom palettes, and switching of palettes based on keyframes. Next release will also support complete replacement of frames using higher color depth or different image scences at all. Cheers Steve Thank you for your comprehensive answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider lucky1 Posted November 20, 2015 Author Content Provider Share Posted November 20, 2015 I still haven't figured out how to use the config tool to route the output signal to the PinDMD header. I guess that's less of an issue. I wasn't planning on using this for a regular pinball DMD. You either need a SD Card to store your config on or compile a custom version with devicemode=1 as default. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider CarnyPriest Posted November 20, 2015 Content Provider Share Posted November 20, 2015 You either need a SD Card to store your config on or compile a custom version with devicemode=1 as default. Understood. I did not have a card installed. I'll test that out later, but I'm very happy to be able to drive the RGB panels. Thanks again for this great solution! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider gtxjoe Posted November 21, 2015 Content Provider Share Posted November 21, 2015 Some videos but can't really capture how good it looks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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randr Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 gtxjoe can you measure your leddmd for me? mine is 12.5" long and 3" tall. my plasma is 12 7/8 long and 3 1/4 tall so led is smaller is yours same? nice videos btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider gtxjoe Posted November 21, 2015 Content Provider Share Posted November 21, 2015 12 5/8" x 3 1/8" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randr Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 That the size of your new pin2dmd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampirolatino2 Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 maybe he is using the p3 panels? they have 3mm spaced leds instead of the 2.5mm you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider gtxjoe Posted November 21, 2015 Content Provider Share Posted November 21, 2015 These are 2 160mmx80mm RGB panels mounted next to each other. I cut the frame in half like you did... 320mm x 80mm = 12 5/8" x 3 1/8" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampirolatino2 Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Ohhh, much better! 80mm is indeed 3.15inch and 320mm is 12.6inch lol ... America should adopt the metric system ASAP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randr Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 My point is they are smaller then a plasma. I know 80mm and 160mm but wanted actual measurement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampirolatino2 Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 True, it is smaller than an original plasma dmd, sadly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider steve45 Posted November 21, 2015 Content Provider Share Posted November 21, 2015 But the difference is rather small. pixel pitch from original dmd (see http://www.vishay.com/docs/37083/lee128g0.pdf)is always 2,54 mm, the china ones have 2,5 so for 128 pixels, the difference is about 5mm. or when you check the vishay datasheet it says "Viewing Area: 12.75" [323.8 mm] W x 3.15" [80.01 mm] " so even smaller a nearly the same like the china ones which are 320x80 Cheers Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider UncleSash Posted November 21, 2015 Content Provider Share Posted November 21, 2015 1st test with double DMD output looks good. some pictures: Here is a short Video (with 1 DMD and 2 Segments, so you see only a double 2nd half): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampirolatino2 Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Cool! Now we can use it for a topper? hehe, it's not bad idea to send a picture frame or something else. Good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evile Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Yeah , but except for running 2.5 pixel size panels you can run p5 size that are 25 x 7 1/4 wide. I have the topper for the panels CNC out and will display soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider UncleSash Posted November 21, 2015 Content Provider Share Posted November 21, 2015 Cool! Now we can use it for a topper? hehe, it's not bad idea to send a picture frame or something else. Good job. Yeah , but except for running 2.5 pixel size panels you can run p5 size that are 25 x 7 1/4 wide. I have the topper for the panels CNC out and will display soon I already designed a PCB layout, with "2x HUB75" outputs instead of "1x HUB and 1x HUB08" output. When we find a few people, I like to order 10 or 20 pcs (same conditions as for the other Breakout Boards). Just give me a note... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider freneticamnesic Posted November 22, 2015 Content Provider Share Posted November 22, 2015 Nice very cool I might upgrade to the 2x output, a topper would be very cool http://www.aliexpress.com/item/A-Indoor-320-160mm-32-16pixels-3in1-1-16-Scan-Indoor-SMD3528-3in1-RGB-full-color/32398158404.html?spm=2114.01020208.3.11.rfRpLD&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_2_79_78_77_80,searchweb201644_5,searchweb201560_9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Content Provider CarnyPriest Posted November 22, 2015 Content Provider Share Posted November 22, 2015 Nice very cool I might upgrade to the 2x output, a topper would be very cool http://www.aliexpress.com/item/A-Indoor-320-160mm-32-16pixels-3in1-1-16-Scan-Indoor-SMD3528-3in1-RGB-full-color/32398158404.html?spm=2114.01020208.3.11.rfRpLD&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_2_79_78_77_80,searchweb201644_5,searchweb201560_9 Well, a topper is what I intend to do with this project: http://www.vpforums.org/index.php?showtopic=28615#entry275877 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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