[New VP10 Alert] Medieval Madness (Williams 1997) VPW

[Powerus]

This table runs well at 1440p 165FPS............ until the flashers turn on.
When the flashers are on I instantly drop to 5 to 15 FPS.

Do I need a RTX4080+ or is something broken?

I've tried reducing textures to 6k and using static reflections but it's still a slideshow.

I'm on a 10700k 5.2GHz all cores and 3070 and all tables run at 165FPS, most with dynamic reflections and occlusion except that one.
I'm on vpx10.8 final and GL version (DX version sucks).

[Stragedy]

also having the no sound from ROM 109b issue. Opened coin door, set to 29, other tables are playing sound, not this one.

I set mono to stereo, no change. Tried the alt sound numbers, no change.

 

[Stragedy]

Update: I reinstalled the rom from the VPF link, not the VPU link, and it now works:https://www.vpforums.org/index.php?app=downloads&showfile=1346

[Lunch]

On 10/9/2025 at 2:56 PM, deadmanworking said:

@Hugarian you probably need to up the ROM volume. Press End key, then 8 and 9 keys to adjust volume 

wish i read this one before redownloading roms half a dozen times! thanks!! this was it

 

[Lunch]

On 10/9/2025 at 2:56 PM, deadmanworking said:

@Hugarian you probably need to up the ROM volume. Press End key, then 8 and 9 keys to adjust volume 

wish i read this one before redownloading roms half a dozen times! thanks!! this was it

 

Edited October 10, 2025 by Lunch
double posted

[Brian_Frank]

Table is incompatible with the 1.09b ROMS that are available everywhere. Tried the ROM set from multiple different sites. All the same CRC checksums and unblocked. Table won't load. Too bad. Looked like a good one. Back to the old table for me.

 

[robertms]

7 hours ago, Brian_Frank said:

Table is incompatible with the 1.09b ROMS that are available everywhere. Tried the ROM set from multiple different sites. All the same CRC checksums and unblocked. Table won't load. Too bad. Looked like a good one. Back to the old table for me.

 

 

You need more than just the one rom https://vpuniverse.com/files/file/26907-medieval-madness-williams-1997-vpw/page/6/?tab=comments#findComment-95836

[Brian_Frank]

14 hours ago, robertms said:

 

You need more than just the one rom https://vpuniverse.com/files/file/26907-medieval-madness-williams-1997-vpw/page/6/?tab=comments#findComment-95836

Thanks. I was able to secure a good version of 1.09b. Table is awesome!

[CyberMage]

Does this require a specific point version of 10.8 to play or something?  I'm running 10.8 (older version I'm sure,) but when it tries to start the table I get "Fatal Error: unable to create texture! E_OUTOFMEMORY"  in renderer\sampler.cpp:339 

 

I've got 32G and an RTX 3080 ti, so I'm doubtful that it's actually a RAM or VRAM issue.  The error has to be a red herring.

[outhere]

1 hour ago, CyberMage said:

Does this require a specific point version of 10.8 to play or something?  I'm running 10.8 (older version I'm sure,) but when it tries to start the table I get "Fatal Error: unable to create texture! E_OUTOFMEMORY"  in renderer\sampler.cpp:339 

 

I've got 32G and an RTX 3080 ti, so I'm doubtful that it's actually a RAM or VRAM issue.  The error has to be a red herring.

At the very least you should be on the VPX that was released on VPForums.org while back

[PeterJ]

I start this table with the latests win x64 version and have the same problems. Get only the error that some images can not be loaded. the table starts and then a lot of textures are flickering white. put also the texture size to 1024 but this is also still not working. 

[CyberMage]

15 hours ago, outhere said:

At the very least you should be on the VPX that was released on VPForums.org while back

Honestly I'm terrified of upgrading.  I'm on one of the RC's but I don't recall which one.  The cabinet is about a year and a half old so definitely not the final.  I love this table, but I'm not sure I'm ready to spend a week trying to make the darned software work together again after upgrading, and this predates the Baller auto-update feature.

Edited October 15, 2025 by CyberMage

[deadmanworking]

@CyberMage I wouldn't sweat this too much if you're already on 10.8.. It would basically only replace your exe and dlls, before that you could backup the Visual Pinball folder (without music and tables) and the VPinballX.ini and the VPinMAME registry entries - not a bad idea to do anyway on a regular basis. Check out this step by step guide for manually updating 

[CyberMage]

I use a UrBackup server that backs up the folders every time the cab is booted, and I have a cloned drive image of it from just after building the cab and getting it all working.  In fact I'm waiting on a full backup to complete right now.

 

I just know it took two separate Windows installs and three VPX installs before I got everything working when I built it.  My main mistake was not starting with Baller Installer - which at first I didn't know existed.  IIRC they released the RC version of Baller I currently have running while I was fighting with it Dec 2023.  The RPC communication with B2S and such just never worked right despite multiple attempts.  I finally just reinstalled Windows and used Baller.

 

I keep the cab restricted from the network (VLAN) and without Internet access, due to no antivirus and no windows updates.  I've let it call out just twice to do Windows updates since I built it.  I push new table files and such to it across the vlan.

 

But yeah I've got time today so I think I'll give it a go.  I'll report back if it fixes the table issue.

[CyberMage]

Well it fixed the problem with this table, but gave me problems on Tron Legacy.

 

I'm getting a not very nice not very smooth ball trail glint that flickers in and out.

 

I'll post a separate thread though since it's obviously not related to this table.   

And again, excellent table reworking by the VPW team!

[Benoit33]

Hello

 

I'm having a problem with MM and WCS. The frames drop from 200+ to 40-50 as soon as the flasher starts.

Any ideas?

Ryzen 5 4500

RTX 5060

16GB

ZeDMD

 

Thanks in advance.

 

[MrGrynch]

On 10/19/2025 at 2:02 PM, CyberMage said:

Well it fixed the problem with this table, but gave me problems on Tron Legacy.

 

I'm getting a not very nice not very smooth ball trail glint that flickers in and out.

 

I'll post a separate thread though since it's obviously not related to this table.   

And again, excellent table reworking by the VPW team!

Check to see if you have ball trails turned on in the settings.

[Bigbadwolf4life]

So i'm having no luck getting the music to play, just the machine sounds are working. I have both , mm_109b & c roms and i've clicked the mono to stereo option but still nothing. Also the

table audio is turned up to 29. Is there something i'm missing? Other than that the table runs excellent in VR

 

 

*FIXED*

I went into the script and adjusted the rom used from b to c and it started working

Edited November 15, 2025 by Bigbadwolf4life

[stevemontuno]

2 hours ago, Bigbadwolf4life said:

So i'm having no luck getting the music to play, just the machine sounds are working. I have both , mm_109b & c roms and i've clicked the mono to stereo option but still nothing. Also the

table audio is turned up to 29. Is there something i'm missing? Other than that the table runs excellent in VR

 

 

*FIXED*

I went into the script and adjusted the rom used from b to c and it started working

You also need to put the mm_10 rom into your roms folder that one has the audio files in it dude

[AdobeWanKenobi]

Hi there,

 

The table looks gorgeous but it doesn't run too smoothly. I'm assuming my laptop maybe isn't quite good enough, but I'm not having any issues with other tables. Is it because this table is so realistic?

 

Specs:

Asus Vivobook

Intel I7 core

Intel Iris xe 128 mb

16 gb ram