PINemHi and PINemHi Leaderboard v3.6.8 (new version is out)

[Sbaby]

1 hour ago, DnaDisturber said:

I wonder if it has something to do with exiting a game and then immediately starting it again.

Maybe the proces hasn't been completed in the background yet (there are a couple of seconds delay builtin)
You could try to wait 30 seconds after you exit a game to start it again and see if that helps

I played for about 4 hours, playing around 30 matches, some more intense than others. I tested different frontends and also played without a frontend. I tried many variations, including closing and reopening Pinemhi for each match, even waiting several minutes between them, but the randomness of the issue persists.

 

1 hour ago, DnaDisturber said:

I don't know if you know this but...

You don't have to exit after every game , if you have a bad game or just not worth of submitting the score you can just start a new game without exiting the game
and when you have a good enough score you just exit

I know this, and that's usually how I play, but it doesn't change anything. The issue persists only for non-ROM games.

[DnaDisturber]

Hmm,

 

I'm clueless as to why this would happen.
Running out of options to investigate i'm afraid

Better stick to the rom-based games for now i guess

[makmak]

Capcom scores are submitted just fine! One day i will find out about the romless scores 😉

Edited March 24, 2025 by makmak
mixed sth up,sry

[makmak]

On 3/21/2025 at 10:59 AM, DnaDisturber said:

 

Hi makmak,

 

Pinemhi_rom_monitor is designed to always keep running
Are you perhaps using your frontend to stop the program after you exit a game (after a stop vpx)

This would perhaps cause these issues
If you leave it running then you won't have to check 5 minute mode, it will stay on ( if you set the alert to on for 5minute mode games then you get a voice telling you when the game starts it is in 5 minute mode)

if you stop pinemhi_rom_monitor it will default back to normal mode the next time it starts (even if you previously ran it in 5 minute mode)

 

It would perhaps explain why the rom-less games don't work as pinemhi_rom_monitor gets killed before it completes the task on the background

 

*There has been an update to avoid 5 minute mode scores being submitted on normal mode database, to prevent that the proces had to wait a bit more before you can use the switch key again
After you exit a game it now may take a few seconds before the switch key responds and switches to normal/5 minute mode

 

 

I have checked repeatedly yesterday:  the rom monitor is running and you switch to 5-minute mode. If you stop VPX within the 5-minute frame right after having started a new game (no plunge, zero score would be submitted) then the rom monitor is not running any longer. You have to restart the rom monitor. I did not check yet, if its the same for regular mode, too. (I do not use a front end, plain VPX only)

Edited March 25, 2025 by makmak

[DnaDisturber]

4 hours ago, makmak said:

I have checked repeatedly yesterday:  the rom monitor is running and you switch to 5-minute mode. If you stop VPX within the 5-minute frame right after having started a new game (no plunge, zero score would be submitted) then the rom monitor is not running any longer. You have to restart the rom monitor. I did not check yet, if its the same for regular mode, too. (I do not use a front end, plain VPX only)

Ok that is unexpected behaviour

I'll test it on my system and see if i can reproduce it

 

Just to be sure, is pinemhi_rom_monitor completely stopped when this happens or perhaps is it just unresponsive
maybe you can check by running taskmanager next time before you restart pinemhi_rom_monitor when you experience this to see if it can be found in the background processes
that way we know for sure if the pinemhi_rom_monitor is killed somehow

 

edit:

I've tested it on my system but pinemhi_rom_monitor keeps just keeps running , tried no plunge zero score multiple times

 

Edited March 25, 2025 by DnaDisturber

[makmak]

OK, its the leaderboard task that is taking (unusual) long to do its task (about 10 sec?). In the meantime pinemhi is not responding and feels like its aborted. So, its just being me impatient.

[DnaDisturber]

7 hours ago, makmak said:

OK, its the leaderboard task that is taking (unusual) long to do its task (about 10 sec?). In the meantime pinemhi is not responding and feels like its aborted. So, its just being me impatient.

There are some builtin delays , perhaps i can make them less (hoping that it won't affect the slow pc's though)
I think you notice it the most when switching from mode after you exit a game, the switch key only becomes active after the leaderboard task has finished

2 versions ago that wasn't the case and it was almost immediately

Edited March 26, 2025 by DnaDisturber

[makmak]

Rollergames rom is on the list, but scores (5min mode) are not registered (normal mode works fine), at least for me, tried several times...

[DnaDisturber]

17 hours ago, makmak said:

Rollergames rom is on the list, but scores (5min mode) are not registered (normal mode works fine), at least for me, tried several times...

It doesn't work for both modes actually

It's clear as to why this is in the logging (for me )

29/03/2025, 13:00
pinemhi rom monitor version :  3.6.6.0
pinemhi leaderboard version :  3.6.5.0
VPinmame version :  3.6.0.1227
Player :  dna-disturber
detected game with rom description :  Rollergames (LA-2)
matching romname :   

 

In romfind.ini there isn't a match for Rollergames (LA-2)
Probably due to renaming in a vpinmame release

 

This is why it's always handy to send your logfile or a bit of it as well because then i would have known the problem right away

and of course save me some time figuring it out by myself  

 

 

It's an easy fix though, just add this line to the romfind.ini file

Rollergames (LA-2)=rollr_l2.nv

 

I'll put it in the romfind.ini for the next release

 

Thanks for pointing it out 👍

 

 

 

 

 

Edited March 29, 2025 by DnaDisturber

[makmak]

my 14.000.000 score on spy hunter 5 min mode is a bug score - dunno how this happened, i never had a 1.000.000 pts...

[DnaDisturber]

13 hours ago, makmak said:

my 14.000.000 score on spy hunter 5 min mode is a bug score - dunno how this happened, i never had a 1.000.000 pts...

Thanks for reporting this makmak  👍

I removed the score from the database

[makmak]

It happened again, several times. I'll pass this one.

[DnaDisturber]

7 hours ago, makmak said:

It happened again, several times. I'll pass this one.

I removed the scores

I have no idea why this happens

[makmak]

I believe it happened this way: 5 minute mode is running - played and finished a low score game - started a new game - noticed time is nearly over - quit VPX to restart 5 minute period. Then a zero score should be submitted, instead a 14 million plus score was somehow  'created' and submitted. Spyhunter was the first rom that did this.

[DnaDisturber]

7 hours ago, makmak said:

I believe it happened this way: 5 minute mode is running - played and finished a low score game - started a new game - noticed time is nearly over - quit VPX to restart 5 minute period. Then a zero score should be submitted, instead a 14 million plus score was somehow  'created' and submitted. Spyhunter was the first rom that did this.

I'll check if i can reproduce...thanks

[ALE54]

Me presento soy Ale 54 VPA Team, un gusto compartir el amor por el pinball, una genialidad el programa Pinemhi que nos permite compartir los score con la comunidad a la vez que nos permite competir sanamente por eso mi respecto a Makmak que demostro ser un caballero honorable al solicitar que se arregle el error de los 14000000.

Mi saludos a todos y nos vemos en los pinball
 

[DnaDisturber]

Welcome ALE54 to the pinemhi family
Thanks for all the kind words

Nice setup you've got there
 

Edited April 10, 2025 by DnaDisturber

[ALE54]

Dear 

Today I played the 5-minute mode on Title Fight, and in the first game it recorded a score of 15,000,000. However, I believe the system recorded it incorrectly, as it took me more than 5 minutes to reach that score.

I later scored 48,000,000 twice, and finally 13,000,000 — all within 5 minutes, timed with my own watch. Because of this, I think the first score should be removed.

Best regards,
Ale 54 VPA TEAM

[DnaDisturber]

Hi ALE54,

 

Did the game stop by itself when you had the 15 Million plus game

There could be like maybe 10 seconds longer gameplay as the 5 minutes go in a little bit later than when you start the game

On 5 minute mode the game shuts down itself, don't know if you knew that....you can just keep playing till it stops the game (no need for a stopwatch , but could be handy if you want to drain a ball just before the time ends to collect end of ball  bonuses )

 

On what pinemhi version are you?

With previous versions there was a bug where  after you switch from 5 minute mode and vice versa that score counted on the wrong mode
 

[DnaDisturber]

New version PINemhi & PINemHi LeaderBoard is out (version 3.6.6)

You can download it from http://www.pinemhi.com


If you upgrade from version 3.6.3 or 3.6.4 or 3.6.5 then you don't have to overwrite your pinemhi.ini
Upgrade from earlier version(s) than 3.6.3 should overwrite their pinemhi.ini and copy the values back into it as changes have been made to pinemhi.ini

Best is to make a backup from your old pinemhi.ini so that you can copy the values into the new pinemhi.ini

Whatsnew.txt:

**********************
PINemHi Version 3.6.6
**********************
Added the following games to PINemHi LeaderBoard:
BMX
Centaur
Lost World
Voltan Escapes Cosmic Doom
Xenon

Added the following Romless games to PINemHi LeaderBoard (needs code in table script to work and romsub.exe to be placed in tables directory):
Dark Chaos
Wizard of Oz
Scarface - Balls and Power
Three Angels
Thundercats
Daredevil and the Defenders Multiverse Mayhem
Big Trouble in Little China
Rush
Dune
The Godfather
IT - Pinball Madness

Added the following roms to PINemHi LeaderBoard:
all the roms from the added games above (that use a rom of course)
kisse (Kiss (Bally))

Badges added to PINemHi Leaderboard:
Scores
-------
All of the above (new) games

Special scores
--------------
Scarface (Max Pelicans Killed , Easter Egg High Score)


PINemHi LeaderBoard Changes:
Additional checks in logging when scores don't get submitted to server
Rom based games, checks are nvram directory exists, nvram updated within 2 minutes after vpx exit or send button
Rom-less games, checks are romsub.exe in table directory ,user directory exists, .pmh file created , content of .pmh file

PINemHi LeaderBoard Bugfixes:
Added line "Rollergames (LA-2)=rollr_l2.nv" in romfind.ini
fixed supersling champion on Iron Maiden Legacy of the Beast (should be 6.000.000 to get ,it was 65)
fixed kiddie and leaderboard challenges not leveling up on webpage (happened when you didn't start a new challenge right away)


PINemHi Changes:
Added support for rom-less games using VPREG.stg
no extension needed anymore for vpinmame rom games (.nv) , but you still can put .nv behind it
no extension needed for rom-less games , but will also work if you put .nv behind it
extension still needed for Future Pinball though (.fpram)

added the following roms to PINemHi:
robo_a29, robo_a30 (Robocop)

added the following rom-less to PINemHi:
Most vpreg.stg top 5 scores should work, use the tablename/cgamename (found in the tablescript) to show the hiscores e.g. pinemhi b66_orig
Special scores added for:
Aerosmith
Batman 66
Game of Thrones
Guardians of the Galaxy
Iron Maiden - Legacy of the Beast
Scarface - Balls and Power
Stranger Things 4
The Goonies Never Say Die
The Munsters

Bugs fixed PINemHi:
robo_a34 (Robocop) Initials not handled correctly , making PINemHi crash (happened when you put your initials in the hiscore table)
eballchp, eballch2, ladyluck, motrdome, beatclck, beatclc2 scores not handled correctly after a hiscore reset using vpinmame when hiscore being set is less than 7 digits long

 

 

[makmak]

Error 404 - not available yet or wrong link maybe?

[DnaDisturber]

1 hour ago, makmak said:

Error 404 - not available yet or wrong link maybe?

Seriously
Just refresh the page ( f5 ), that will fix it
 

[makmak]

I am new at this thing, I don't think computers will prevail.

[DnaDisturber]

I'll have a look at it....
normally it should not get the page from cache but for some reason with the menu on the right it doesn't work
The rest of the pages work fine (not getting the page from cache)

 

🍺 

[BostonBuckeye]

Hi DnaDisturber, Thank you for your work on PINemHi. Any chance you will eventually be adding support for the roms for the tables below from Atari, Zaccaria and Stern Electronics? At least I don't think they are currently supported by PINemHi.

 

Airborne Avenger (Atari 1977); aavenger
Atarians (Atari 1976); atarians
Devil Riders (Zaccaria 1984); dvlrider
Earth Wind Fire (Zaccaria 1981); ewf
Farfalla (Zaccaria 1983); farfalla
Galaxy (Stern Electronics 1980); galaxy
Hot Hand (Stern Electronics 1979); hothand
House Of Diamonds (Zaccaria 1978); hod
Magic Castle (Zaccaria 198; mcastle
Middle Earth (Atari 1978); midearth
Pinball Champ 82 (Zaccaria 1982); pinchamp
Robot (Zaccaria 1985); robot
Shooting the Rapids (Zaccaria 1979); strapids
Soccer Kings (Zaccaria 1982); socrking
Space Riders (Atari 1978); spcrider
Star God (Zaccaria 1980); stargoda
Strike (Zaccaria 1978); strike
Time Machine (Zaccaria 1983); tmachzac