slydog43 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 With the latest FPLaunch, do I need ExitEmulatorKey1, 2, and 3 or can I delete these settings from the ini file, and just use ExitKey instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonsmith Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Sly this latest version will rename 4 lines and deletes 1 but it leaves the old ones behind. My second post in this thread shows which ones can be deleted and or the change log tells you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slydog43 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Jasonsmith thanks so much, I have deleted those lines and it still works correctly, yeah. I always was confused why exit2 and exit3 keys were set up. Much cleaner settings.ini, thanks. I'm using Win7x64 and with WIP10 from yesterday seems a little slower exiting tables (PinMame stays open longer). Is this normal? Not complaining just making sure my setup is working right. I see some chatter with Blur and pausing PinMame in some other thread, maybe this has something to do with that? Thanks guys, love this stuff more than anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blur Posted February 14, 2013 Author Share Posted February 14, 2013 Pausing makes problems only if you use Esc for exit and when you open menu game is paused.If you use e you will have no problems.pinmame stays open longer only on directb2s tables. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blur Posted February 14, 2013 Author Share Posted February 14, 2013 As for settings.ini layout - it's best to use order that i have in fplaunch - you just copy lines from there and edit what you need to change. I'm not sure if comments are aloud after value in settings - but will test it. This order is most logical and easily readable for users. By the way exitemulatorkey2 and exitemulatorkey3 keys are named that way cause on exitemulatorkey or pause key you would get only pause screen and you would exit with exitemulatorkey2 or exitemulatorkey3. Now that keys are used for entering into submenus so names are: exitkey, exitkey1, enterkey, enterkey1 recomended order is: exitScriptKey = ~q & ~s ; kill script key ; menu keys exitKey = e ; invoke exit menu, can be joy button also (Joy1) exitKey1 = p ; former pauseKey, works same as exit key enterKey = 1 ; key for entering into menus enterKey1 = Enter ; and another one upKey = LShift ; left flipper goes up in menus upKey1 = LShift ; another left flipper key - for joystick downKey = RShift ; right flipper goes down in menus downKey1 = RShift ; another right flipper key - for joystick ; old settings toggleCursorKey = t hideCursor = true hideDesktop = true hideTaskbar = true ; new settings useLoadingScreen = true ; show loading slider useExitScreen = true ; show exit321 countdown on long press useExitAsPause = true ; open pause window on short press useExitMenu = true ; use exit menu instead of pause window fadespeed = 25 pauseFPKey = RButton ; pause in FP saveFPTables = true ; save fp table position on exit editTableKey = !F4 ; close table and go to vp/fp editor printScreenKey = o ; save playfield printBGKey = u ; save backglass pfScreenNum = 1 ; playfield Screen Number (used for print screen) bgScreenNum = 2 ; backglass Screen Number (used for print screen) instructionsKey = i flyerKey = f hyperScale = 0.75 debugMode = file ledwiz = false toggleLedwizKey = 1 hyperpinexe = hyperpin.exe focusSleep = 500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViriiGuy Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Ok, When I put this new FPLAunch in place, and re-mapp my exit key to E in the Winpac utility... It will exit tables fine. But it will not exit Hyperpin. From reading this thread, it sounds like it should write the below info to the settings.ini file when FPLaunch is run? Because my hyperspin settings.ini does not seem to get edited. And when I replace everything under [FPLaunch} with this info.. my tables stop working. Nevermind.. found my own answer here... http://www.hyperspin-fe.com/forum/showthread.php?10935-FPLaunch-MOD-Pause-and-Loading-screens&p=223456&viewfull=1#post223456 exitScriptKey = ~q & ~s ; kill script key ; menu keys exitKey = e ; invoke exit menu, can be joy button also (Joy1) exitKey1 = p ; former pauseKey, works same as exit key enterKey = 1 ; key for entering into menus enterKey1 = Enter ; and another one upKey = LShift ; left flipper goes up in menus upKey1 = LShift ; another left flipper key - for joystick downKey = RShift ; right flipper goes down in menus downKey1 = RShift ; another right flipper key - for joystick ; old settings toggleCursorKey = t hideCursor = true hideDesktop = true hideTaskbar = true ; new settings useLoadingScreen = true ; show loading slider useExitScreen = true ; show exit321 countdown on long press useExitAsPause = true ; open pause window on short press useExitMenu = true ; use exit menu instead of pause window fadespeed = 25 pauseFPKey = RButton ; pause in FP saveFPTables = true ; save fp table position on exit editTableKey = !F4 ; close table and go to vp/fp editor printScreenKey = o ; save playfield printBGKey = u ; save backglass pfScreenNum = 1 ; playfield Screen Number (used for print screen) bgScreenNum = 2 ; backglass Screen Number (used for print screen) instructionsKey = i flyerKey = f hyperScale = 0.75 debugMode = file ledwiz = false toggleLedwizKey = 1 hyperpinexe = hyperpin.exe focusSleep = 500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattewnet Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 I have configured the dwjukebox and works very well with jukebox.bat in my pincab. But when I try to insert the table called jukebox, hyperpin responding "do not find jukebox.fpt table". Why? Hyperpin Database XML VP: <game name="jukebox"><description>jukebox</description><manufacturer>dwjukebox</manufacturer><year>2013</year><type>SS</type></game> Grazie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blur Posted February 19, 2013 Author Share Posted February 19, 2013 you have to create file jukebox.vpt in vp tables folder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattewnet Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 RESOLVED.You simply delete the contents of the script in the new table in visual pinball.Save as: jukebox.vptand everything works!thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViriiGuy Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 This version caused my HyperPin to lose focus or lockup. So I had to go back to wip9 for the time being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zablon Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Why is focus such an issue in Windows 7? Is it due to 2 screens displaying different things? My screen must flicker and fight 3-4 times before it finally settles on a screen, and it really does seem like the whole process pauses everything until it finally decides. In my mind, a table should be loading in the background, regardless of if it is in focus or not. (maybe that's just how the routines are written), but the point is, Win 7 sure does some odd things with these programs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonsmith Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 RESOLVED.You simply delete the contents of the script in the new table in visual pinball. Save as: jukebox.vpt and everything works! thanks Okay help me out here, where is the PinJukeLaunch folder supposed to be and where should the dwjukebox folder go. Also must we have ledblinky installed as well. When I load this from HP I'm getting can't find path errors ti ledblinky etc.EDIT: Okay, edited the bat file and took out the blinky stuff and changed the path to DWJ but I can't exit out of it when in HP. Help... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattewnet Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 I don't use ledblinky. Only jukebox. I deleted ledblinky lines from jukebox.bat in hyperpin folder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonsmith Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Are you have any issues in exiting the JB from HP, mine won't exit at all (HP mapped to e) and when I press esc on the keyboard HP goes focus crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider bent98 Posted February 19, 2013 Content Provider Share Posted February 19, 2013 Last version of WIP 9 worked great. Last version 10 causes focus issues. I am running win xp. Here are my settings for version 10. [startup Program]Executable = C:\HyperPin\LEDSet.batParameters =Working_Directory =WinState = HIDDEN[Exit Program]Executable = C:\HyperPin\LEDClear.batParameters =Working_Directory =WinState = HIDDEN[FPLaunch]exitScriptKey = ~q & ~sexitKey = e exitKey1 = g enterKey = 1 enterKey1 = Enter upKey = LShift upKey1 = LShift downKey = RShift downKey1 = RShift toggleCursorKey = thideCursor = truehideDesktop = truehideTaskbar = trueuseLoadingScreen = true useExitScreen = true useExitAsPause = true useExitMenu = true fadespeed = 25pauseFPKey = RButtonsaveFPTables = true editTableKey = !F4 printScreenKey = o printBGKey = u pfScreenNum = 1 bgScreenNum = 2 instructionsKey = iflyerKey = fhyperScale = 0.75debugMode = falseledwiz = truetoggleLedwizKey = 1hyperpinexe = hyperpin.exefocusSleep = 500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blur Posted February 19, 2013 Author Share Posted February 19, 2013 Did you see post about debugging and tuning focus in this thread? What happens when you exit - do you hear diagnostic sounds, are they fast or slow or you never hear two solenoid sounds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonsmith Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 As for settings.ini layout - it's best to use order that i have in fplaunch - you just copy lines from there and edit what you need to change.I'm not sure if comments are aloud after value in settings - but will test it. This order is most logical and easily readable for users. Tested and failed. I copied it all over and got an error when trying to launch a table citing the first "; Kill Script Key". I then deleted all the descriptions but left the ; menu, ; old settings etc and had many issues when trying to exit the table. In the end, I kept the order of things but deleted all the "; ______". All is fine again, phew. EDIT: Can we use # before a comment? I really like the comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blur Posted February 20, 2013 Author Share Posted February 20, 2013 yup - looks like comments don't work - they go into settings value - maybe i can remove them manually from the script when i'm loading settings in the meanwhile - you can just move all comments to next line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zablon Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 So Blur (sorry if this is the wrong thread to discuss this, but this is where you put your diag suggestions) While I don't consider it a true issue, my screen does like what was posted in the video on the first page in Win7-64bit. Anything to make things snappier is always nice though right I took some time to do some comparisons with WIP released prior to this batch with the diag stuff. What I'm finding is that in Win7 with or without the focus scripts, nothing changes. Same flashes, same delays. I changed the focussleep from values of 100, 500, 1000, 2000, and notice no real change. I tried removing the "break" and saw no real change. The delays are really seen in both starting and exiting tables, however much more noticeable in FP as it flashes alot. The diag clicks are helpful though. This is what I see: In VP: On table exit: Hyperpin screen immediately comes up for an instant, then goes black 3-4 second delay Click 3-4 second delay Click - Hyperpin comes into focus again In FP: On table exit: Hyperpin screen immediately comes up for an instant, then goes black 6-7 Second Delay (flashes) 2 clicks back to back as Hyperpin comes into focus Is there a way to force Hyperpin to stay on top even if the emulators have not fully exited? They shoudl be doing all that in the background, and it seems like Win7 is trying to force them front until they are done. (just throwing out ideas here) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonsmith Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 My Win7 64bit setup reacts exactly the same as what Zablon is describing as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blur Posted February 20, 2013 Author Share Posted February 20, 2013 i can try to push winclose in background or in another thread and then continue with activation of hyperpin, and see if this will improve closing times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonsmith Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 If you could that would be great, starting to wonder why I'm even using Win7. About one out of every 10 or so table exits HP crashes. All the clicks seem normal and it makes it to the wheel screen but it locks up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zablon Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Jason, that's odd...I have 0 issues with crashing tables, everything works great actually. I actually dont even consider the "blacking focus" thing to be an issue, just noticed I wasn't only person who had it and saw others who's screens were much faster at changing from one program to another. Are you sure you aren't having heat issues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonsmith Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 No heat issue that's for sure, could be something else though. I'm always crossing my fingers when closing a table, it just doesn't seem right. I don't have any odd settings either, actually they are identical to what blur posted some posts back. Maybe a memory thing, or processing thing, idunno. On XP it was solid, never had an issue at all, but Win7, oh my. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider bent98 Posted February 20, 2013 Content Provider Share Posted February 20, 2013 damn, I cant get WIP 10 to work with my win xp 32 bit rig. while all versions of WIP 9 worked fine. I guess its something with the new focus routine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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