Predator (Gottlieb 1986)

PRDTR?  Still better than Raven

Btw @hauntfreaks the entry for this table for “vr room” is no, should be “yes”

43 minutes ago, Loafmeister said:

PRDTR?  Still better than Raven

 

Btw @hauntfreaks the entry for this table for “vr room” is no, should be “yes”

yeah when I uploaded this table, I had some really weird issues... somehow it double posted, and I had to hide one... never had anything like that before... in all the craziness I guess I hit NO 
if there is ever an update, I will change... 

1 hour ago, GraveD said:

@kellyf @hauntfreaks

I looked at the Hex, it's possible to replace "RAVEN"with another 5 letter word

ALIEN/HUNTR...other ideas?

 

yeah Army and I were looking at it the other day.... and he found the same thing that "Rambo" worked on his reskin.... so it had to be five letters... "Haunt" five letters <wink>

15 minutes ago, hauntfreaks said:

yeah Army and I were looking at it the other day.... and he found the same thing that "Rambo" worked on his reskin.... so it had to be five letters... "Haunt" five letters <wink>

LoL

STALK
ALIEN
CLOAK
PRED1
BLEED (if it bleeds we can kill it)
KILLS
JUNGL
LASER
SPEAR
 

hi nice table play great in desktop mode but in Vr for me is impossible

when I start a game and I lost the ball      the table just fly around follow head movement 

edit: 

ok I fix it

I disable reflection  strenght   and render options 

13 hours ago, GraveD said:

LoL

STALK
ALIEN
CLOAK
PRED1
BLEED (if it bleeds we can kill it)
KILLS
JUNGL
LASER
SPEAR
 

prdtr, PRDTR!

ARNIE?  LOL

HUNTR

STALK

How about some out-of-the-box thinking and considering a space as a character?  So...

HUNT (space can be before or after the word so 4 letter word works)

ARMY

A V P (Army vs Predator, Arnold vs Predator)

NUKE

PREY (that might be the best one!)

19 hours ago, AlexMM said:

hi nice table play great in desktop mode but in Vr for me is impossible

 

when I start a game and I lost the ball      the table just fly around follow head movement 

 

edit: 

ok I fix it

I disable reflection  strenght   and render options 

This is likely a result of the headtracking bug I mentioned earlier on the first page of comments. 

You should be able to keep the default reflections and fix the headtracking by importing a LUT file into the image manager and select that LUT as active. This table doesn't have one and this causes a VPX bug to raise it's head in VR, not everyone experiences the bug though.

Once you have the LUT image imported, click the backglass view icon in the editor (the little pinball table), then go to the "Color Grading LookupTable (256x16)" drop down menu and select the LUT image you imported.

If you don't have a LUT handy, export one from another table such as "ColorGradeLUT256x16_1to1" from one of the newer VPW releases and import that back into the Predator table.

On 2/3/2026 at 6:53 AM, Rabmos said:

Thanks for this great table. Looks and plays amazing! Really nice design.

 

But there's one weird visual bug, see the attached screenshots. When the light changes a weird reflection (of the playfield) appears and after the lightning change it disappears again. It's distracting during gameplay. Can this be turned off somehow? It looks like a bug but if it's a feature it would be nice if it's optional.

That's the creeping ink blob bug we sometimes see on a handful of VR tables and I discussed it with Studly_goorite on discord recently, it gets really bad on some tables but only a few are affected.

If Haunt's suggestion doesn't work, you can also try:

Setting preferences/graphics "Max reflection mode" to balls only.

or

Go to "Table/Render probe manager" and delete the "ramp probe" (fixed the issue in VR for me at the expense of losing the nice refractions on the ramps.)

What ultimately causes this issue is still a bit of an unknown I think but seems to be related to reflection/render probes/flashers/GI. I'm wondering if it may also be an issue with depth bias on some items (maybe overlapping, wrong order) or something, but I don't know a lot about that aspect.


 

On 2/3/2026 at 2:07 AM, hauntfreaks said:

I dont see it on my end... but try this it "might" work for you.... see pic for what to select, and the settings to change

Thanks! That almost solved it, the images are gone, only on the right there's still a block floating during the flashers (see screenshot).

But the table is lots of fun and looks just amazing.

@GravyThank you. I like to keep the probes on they do look great indeed.

On 2/3/2026 at 4:56 AM, GraveD said:

@kellyf @hauntfreaks

I looked at the Hex, it's possible to replace "RAVEN"with another 5 letter word

ALIEN/HUNTR...other ideas?

 

DUTCH, READY, HUNT, RUN.., BLOOD, PREY, EARTH

2 hours ago, jejevpuniverse said:

DUTCH, READY, HUNT, RUN.., BLOOD, PREY, EARTH

I like RUN..

or CHOPA?

I think I prefer PRDTR or HUNTR

This is awesome!  Thanks Haunt!

FYI, this table does work just fine on VPX Standalone. No script changes needed.

35 minutes ago, valkyrie528 said:

FYI, this table does work just fine on VPX Standalone. No script changes needed.

awesome thanks for the heads up!

finally got a chance to try this out. Great job on skinning alive the old table (heh) and giving her a nice appropriate coat of paint.  Plays great on the pincab but yeah I'm getting that LUT issue / frame rate collapse for VR so I'll have to follow the steps Gravy outlined above. prior to trying to play, I checked out the mega room.  WOW, like WOW!  I love the Arnie model but the Predator??  You don't ever get a sense of scale of just how large the predator is until you stand right next to one.

The mega room is not on by default so I know there are some people who are gonna play this and never really give it a try. They don't know what they are missing.

On 2/4/2026 at 4:52 AM, Gravy said:

This is likely a result of the headtracking bug I mentioned earlier on the first page of comments. 

You should be able to keep the default reflections and fix the headtracking by importing a LUT file into the image manager and select that LUT as active. This table doesn't have one and this causes a VPX bug to raise it's head in VR, not everyone experiences the bug though.

Once you have the LUT image imported, click the backglass view icon in the editor (the little pinball table), then go to the "Color Grading LookupTable (256x16)" drop down menu and select the LUT image you imported.

If you don't have a LUT handy, export one from another table such as "ColorGradeLUT256x16_1to1" from one of the newer VPW releases and import that back into the Predator table.

Thanks for this, worked great. Never had to do this with a table before

3 hours ago, Warrie said:

Thanks for this, worked great. Never had to do this with a table before

There's been a few table releases over the years that have this bug but most have been patched by now so you may not have come across them.

My bug report from 2024 is still open on github and details some of the tables it affected. Unsure if 10.8.1 fixes the issue.
https://github.com/vpinball/vpinball/issues/1741

Why I dont listen any sound? Do I have to make some alias like rambo,raven ? 

Rambo with raven works me perfect, I can listen ssf and see dmd, I changed alt sound 0,1,2,3 and still anythink....I dont know what else to do. Thank you for your work, I love it!!!

17 minutes ago, chuckypin said:

Why I dont listen any sound? Do I have to make some alias like rambo,raven ? 

Rambo with raven works me perfect, I can listen ssf and see dmd, I changed alt sound 0,1,2,3 and still anythink....I dont know what else to do. Thank you for your work, I love it!!!

make sure in F12 page 3 the volumes are not at zero.... if its rom sounds you dont hear one of the other raven tables has altered your nvram file... go delete it, and it will set it back to the factory settings

On 2/1/2026 at 5:07 PM, kellyf said:

As for you posting the ROM for Raven, you know full well that this is against VP Universe and VP forums as well.   The rights holder for Gottlieb, (specifically through its rights holder, Gottlieb Development LLC) have stated they do not allow their roms to be freely posted and that is the reason they are not supposed to be posted here and the reason VP forum has no link to any of Gottlieb's roms. The roms can be found online if searched for hard enough, but to post them here is just careless and wrong.

Before you start lecturing people that put in their free time and energy for the benefit of us all: 

https://vpuniverse.com/files/category/98-gottlieb-roms/

https://www.vpforums.org/index.php?showtopic=30960

On 3/10/2026 at 8:35 PM, gginelli said:

 

Before you start lecturing people that put in their free time and energy for the benefit of us all: 

 

https://vpuniverse.com/files/category/98-gottlieb-roms/

https://www.vpforums.org/index.php?showtopic=30960

Relax man, it's all good.    This post by me and Hauntfreaks has long been over.  I tried to delete my posts but there is no deleting available.  These posts over new table remakes and roms were unfortunately at a time in my life where I was recovering from a stroke.  My brain wasn't working right and I was a little defensive about tables and roms back then.   Good news is, I'm doing a lot better and don't give a crap about trivial things like this anymore.

Play on

On 2/1/2026 at 11:49 AM, hauntfreaks said:

14yrs... same stories over and and over and over.... and the day NEVER comes... 
what we do is paint pretty pictures of pinball machines... that a 3D graphic ball rolls around on...
not even close to what a real pinball machine is or does... hence the "real" pinball people know this as well...
and the stories of them caring again is BS..... 
heres the scenario they "would" care.... being a graphic designers, if I really wanted to , I could recreate BG's and PF's that could easily be printed and sold... that is NOT what I or anyone else does here.... most couldnt do it if they wanted to... what I/we do is make low res files that are 100% worthless other then seeing there pretty little pic on a TV/Monitor, the end.... 
heres the scenario they "might" care.... If I/we made out pretty little moving pics, and at the same time tried to SELL those pretty moving pics.... I/we also DONT do this.... 

heres the issue with bringing this up in posts, forums, discord.... its spreads a false narrative, and perpetuates the BS myths that were spawned on VPF many years ago for the goal of trying to engraced himself into the "real" pinball world... this was proven to NEVER EVER HAVE EVER happened... 

Hey Hauntfreaks,   I just heard of the fire and your loss.  It's so sad. I'm wishing you well.

I also just realized that I never apologized to you about our posts about remaking tables and using Gottlieb roms.   So I do apologize.  I've always had mad respect for your talent.

 I tried to delete my posts but there is no deleting available.  These posts over new table remakes and roms were unfortunately at a time in my life where I was recovering from a stroke.  My brain wasn't working right and I was a little defensive about tables and roms back then.   Good news is, I'm doing a lot better and don't give a crap about trivial things like this anymore.

Life is too short.

Play on