wowter Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 the "rule" may or may not have been made up. We can't be sure, so It might be better to err on the side of caution. Also, for those thinking of starting a project: many tables might already exist. I would think that some of you already expanded upon the existing ultrapin tables, and have created your own versions.
Administrators Dazz Posted January 10, 2013 Administrators Posted January 10, 2013 The rule on VPF is 3 years AFTER the last machine using the current system, at this time the current system is SAM. I think that on VPU it should be 3 years after the machine has stopped production. That's plenty of time for backstock to have been sold. The way I see it; if Stern doesn't want this then they can message me and request that we remove the content.
luvthatapex Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 ok, so SAM games up to and including Big Buck Hunter would be fair game to recreate and discuss on VPU. That leaves Avatar, Rolling Stones, Transformers, TRON, ACDC, XMEN and Avengers as non-recreatable at the moment. Thanks for the clarification Dazz. http://ipdb.org/search.pl?any=STERN+PINBALL&sortby=date&search=Search+Database&searchtype=quick Now lets get some tables built!
Administrators Dazz Posted January 10, 2013 Administrators Posted January 10, 2013 Correct, does that sound reasonable?
wowter Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 Correct, does that sound reasonable? If this is the place these tables start appearing then VPU is going to get noticed! Are you ready for hundreds/thousands of new users though? edit: and one other thing: Would be nice to see the 16 shades in action via the Pindmd2, but i guess someone has to convince russdx to include the xmas present in his builds................ edit2: I have not seen any of this on hyperpin or vpf, do you want to keep it this way? I only see 28 downloads on the .dll so shit has definately not hit the fan yet.
Content Provider oooPLAYER1ooo Posted January 10, 2013 Content Provider Posted January 10, 2013 Fyi tables are built I just don't want to be the first to release one.Unclewilly and myself have madeWheel of fortunedark knightFamily guyshrekNBA
Content Provider Itchigo Posted January 10, 2013 Content Provider Posted January 10, 2013 As I don't know vpm, and I'm a fan of the older tables, I can't contribute much to this area, but I didn't want to ignore it either. Go for it!!
studmuff Posted January 11, 2013 Posted January 11, 2013 Correct, does that sound reasonable? It sounds reasonable to me.
studmuff Posted January 11, 2013 Posted January 11, 2013 So how simple is it to run these tables? Is it just having the latest version of VP and the SAM VPinMAME.dll?
Content Provider unclewilly Posted January 11, 2013 Content Provider Posted January 11, 2013 Yep thats pretty much it. Fg and shrek need an alpha ramp update and to be adjusted for the nee sized ball feature, as these ones were made a few years ago before the new features were added to vp. But the others are pretty up to date. Batmab is a particular favorite of mine
Content Provider oooPLAYER1ooo Posted January 11, 2013 Content Provider Posted January 11, 2013 well scott in the next few weeks when im back at work and in a normal routine we'll start tidy of what we have done already if you are up for it. I need to change the alpha setup on batman, add a few sounds and a light i missed and its prety much done. for anyone who is curious on the quality of the works here is a little tease
studmuff Posted January 11, 2013 Posted January 11, 2013 They look great. I also have some pictures of WPT. I don't have the game anymore but took some pics before I sold it. I would love to see a version of POTC.
Content Provider oooPLAYER1ooo Posted January 11, 2013 Content Provider Posted January 11, 2013 yes please as many pics as you can would be great ! i started a redraw and have a pretty good pf resource to work off but more pics of that would be great.
Content Provider unclewilly Posted January 11, 2013 Content Provider Posted January 11, 2013 Just let me know what we need done phil. I have a fg with the ball momentum engine added to it also. I ll do a little work on my laptop and get it ready for some vp work
Content Provider bent98 Posted January 11, 2013 Content Provider Posted January 11, 2013 Wof and nba are such fun tables. Really looking foward to playing them. Phil, what about Alvin G?
luvthatapex Posted January 11, 2013 Posted January 11, 2013 IJ4 and CSI have trough issues so it's impossible to start a game. Are there any pinmame devs able to look into this? Thanks!
Loafmeister Posted January 12, 2013 Posted January 12, 2013 Hi guys. Those are pretty nice pics. Just some old info here, probably known by most but the ORIGINAL 3 year rule dated back a long time ago and it had nothing to do with VPF, it was (if my old brain recalls correctly) Steve Ellenoff of Pinmame fame who talked to Gary Stern personally and if I recall from that, came up with the "friendly" 3 year rule. The problem is that rule became null and void with pinmame going open source. like I said, probably known by many but for those new users, that's the history behind it. What was actually said between Steve and Gary? Who knows, but as the posts here do show, we all get its a sensitive issue. Very nice site Dazz, looks great.
wowter Posted January 12, 2013 Posted January 12, 2013 Is there a build available which includes russels pindmd2 code? It would be great to see the 16 shades in action on a real DMD.
ViriiGuy Posted January 13, 2013 Posted January 13, 2013 Ok, that Batman looks awesome! Gimmie gimmie gimmie gimmie And since the 3 year rule would be null and void with PinMAME being opensource........ How about Transformers It would look awesome on my Optimus-Pin
luvthatapex Posted January 13, 2013 Posted January 13, 2013 Unfortunately Transformers sound is broken in this version of vpinmame. Ok, that Batman looks awesome! Gimmie gimmie gimmie gimmie And since the 3 year rule would be null and void with PinMAME being opensource........ How about Transformers It would look awesome on my Optimus-Pin
ViriiGuy Posted January 13, 2013 Posted January 13, 2013 Unfortunately Transformers sound is broken in this version of vpinmame. Dern. Well, here is hoping someone fixes it!
luvthatapex Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 Curious, is this a one time present or will we be able to get updates as the SAM bugs are fixed in vpinmame?
Content Provider oooPLAYER1ooo Posted January 15, 2013 Content Provider Posted January 15, 2013 its the source code for sam system, anyone can work on it and fix the bugs. we still don't know who's code this is yet, we wont until destruk confirms if its his or not although i doubt it as it was leaked for a few hours on vpf also.
glxb Posted January 19, 2013 Posted January 19, 2013 Is the option for dumpframes still in the source code? If it is could someone compile it with it on for me, would help A LOT! GLXB Still after this if anyone can help. I'm doing a mod of the Iron Man table for FP and this would help A LOT! Thnx GLXB
boogies2 Posted January 26, 2013 Posted January 26, 2013 Wow, I can't believe how nice them preview pics looked - They look awesome
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