okerra Posted September 13, 2023 Share Posted September 13, 2023 7 hours ago, slippifishi said: What is there to think about? Just steal it Freezy, say it aligns with YOUR software development ethics and you are morally obliged to do so and you are home free! Dont cry please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Dazz Posted September 13, 2023 Administrators Share Posted September 13, 2023 13 hours ago, slippifishi said: What is there to think about? Just steal it Freezy, say it aligns with YOUR software development ethics and you are morally obliged to do so and you are home free! Dude... you need to chill. We understand that your feelings are butthurt and you don't agree with the decisions to no longer support closed formats. Get over it... move along if you need to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider TerryRed Posted September 13, 2023 Content Provider Share Posted September 13, 2023 8 hours ago, Loafmeister said: I've read conflicting commentary on how this affects an app available for free. Some say you have to have sales AND downloads for you to be impacted, while other say "Sales+downloads" but then there's a different table showing downloads only. They mention DEMOS won't be hit but VPE is not going to be a demo! I guess this is what happens when Unity purchases a company like Weta digital... they gotta pay for that somehow. I mean... VPE "could" be considered a "demo" if it doesn't come with any tables... right.... right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLouLoulou Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 Maybe i missed something... But i don't see their opinion about free game based on Unity. To me, it's assumed that they only want to do this for solt games... It would be obvious this doesn't apply to games developed and published for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarBiteR Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 (edited) As a Linux user I tried the unity install and it failed. Way too many hoops to jump through. I've been running Linux since back when you pulled floppy images to do a network install and compiled the Kernel so I am experienced. Unless you need Unity for VR then most people just need a 3d engine. So I would much prefer one that I could install with a native package manager (APT) or as a .deb file. Searching the web I had many hits and https://o3de.org looks interesting. I can relate to whats been discussed about Unity and it seems to be making a lot of noise in their community.. Edited September 14, 2023 by EarBiteR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MauiPunter Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 How does Unity's licensing and fees compare to Unreal? Was there a reason Unity was chosen over Unreal? Was just curious. Looking forward to seeing this new technology in use in our hobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkehr Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 (edited) The Unity pricing changes suck for many commercial game studios, sure, but I don't see how it affects VPE. It will never hit the $200k revenue threshold because it's not monetized. From the official FAQ: "Please note: It is important to remember that games that do not reach the revenue threshold, including games that are not monetized in any way, are not required to pay the per-install fee." Edited September 15, 2023 by arkehr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravy Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 Only just heard about the unity changes via this video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkehr Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 @Gravy This video is already outdated. Unity has backpedaled in several ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MauiPunter Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 6 hours ago, arkehr said: @Gravy This video is already outdated. Unity has backpedaled in several ways. The latest I am reading is if you don't charge and are distributing free software these fees don't apply. It's not clear how they know that an install is for a free software application. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeKay Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 Screw Unity. I just deleted it from my PC. There's nothing to prevent them from screwing free software projects tomorrow, regardless of whether or not this change affects them today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravy Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 10 hours ago, MauiPunter said: The latest I am reading is if you don't charge and are distributing free software these fees don't apply. It's not clear how they know that an install is for a free software application. That's better news, although what DeKay mentioned above about a possible future risk is certainly a worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benoitdu77 Posted September 25, 2023 Share Posted September 25, 2023 Hello, how will this work next? we will no longer use vpx? will it be necessary to launch an exe of each table with unity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freezy Posted September 25, 2023 Author Share Posted September 25, 2023 No, there will still be a file containing the table loaded by the player (the executable). Also, VPX isn't going to go anywhere soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARD Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 Hello everyone, I hope I am not in the wrong threads or the wrong forum about that but I have issues getting everything to work on Unity and was hoping to get some help. Or at least their setup (versions and so) to get it to run. I have followed the online documentation but some errors persist. Long story short: Using Unity 2022.3.10f with HDRP 14.0.8, I have installed the VPE packages: Visual Pinball Engine preview.129 Visual Pinball Engine (Common Assets) preview.58 Visual Pinball Engine (HDRP) preview.181 Visual Pinball Engine (PinMAME) preview.39 I had from the beginning dependencies errors popping up so I installed manually the package NativeTrees 0.1.2 from Git. This removed the compilation errors. I exported a simple Table from Visual Pinball and imported it into my project. The table is displayed properly but when I pressed play, I have the 2 following errors: NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object Unity.Collections.UnsafeQueueBlockPool.OnDomainUnload (System.Object sender, System.EventArgs e) (at ./Library/PackageCache/[email protected]/Unity.Collections/UnsafeQueue.cs:139) System.AppDomain.DoDomainUnload () (at <b89873cb176e44a995a4781c7487d410>:0) and NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object VisualPinball.Unity.BallManager.CreateBall (VisualPinball.Engine.Game.IBallCreationPosition ballCreator, System.Single radius, System.Single mass, UnityEngine.GameObject ballPrefab) (at ./Library/PackageCache/[email protected]/VisualPinball.Unity/VisualPinball.Unity/VPT/Ball/BallManager.cs:56) -> upon inspection with a breakpoint, MainComponent.Ball is null I can move the flippers using Shift and the plunger with Enter but no ball is present in the game. If I press the debug key create ball, this gives me the same error. Has anyone had this issue,? Is there some extra setup to do? Is it a version thing? Thanks in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freezy Posted November 29, 2023 Author Share Posted November 29, 2023 Hi! The DomainUnload error you can ignore, the other one is still a bug. I'm currently still working on physics, and a lot of things will change in the next few weeks, so I'd recommend waiting a little bit more. I'll be updating the documentation and create a new thread here about the recent activity and where we will go in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider gear323 Posted December 29, 2023 Content Provider Share Posted December 29, 2023 Thanks for the update Freezy. Still very interested on what's cooking . Looking forward to your new thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freezy Posted December 31, 2023 Author Share Posted December 31, 2023 Let's continue here! Happy New Year, everybody! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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