Content Provider ARMYAVIATION Posted April 24, 2021 Content Provider Share Posted April 24, 2021 Lady listed it for $100! On FB, @bordi hope you got an account!!!! She got blew up with calls and changed it to $1000, but I got it. So freakin happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htamas Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 Wow... one of the weirdest tables ever. I played this in the Budapest Pinball Museum, a strange one for sure. What a score even for $1000... if you got it for $100, then it is an insane deal. Wish we had a good VPX version... yes, I'm aware of the existing one but it's not quite at the level it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider ARMYAVIATION Posted April 25, 2021 Author Content Provider Share Posted April 25, 2021 @htamaswas it a fun game?? I almost crapped myself when I saw $100. I am so stoked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bord Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 What!? Great find for $1000! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider Shannon Posted April 25, 2021 Content Provider Share Posted April 25, 2021 We have to make this a VPX table now that you have the resources! Great find!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider ARMYAVIATION Posted April 25, 2021 Author Content Provider Share Posted April 25, 2021 It’s gonna be hard to replicate the playfield. There is a plastic moon crater layer then the acrylic smooth layer that is rolling over it. The backglass is even 2 layers thick and is 3d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htamas Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 1 hour ago, ARMYAVIATION said: @htamaswas it a fun game?? I almost crapped myself when I saw $100. I am so stoked Well, it was fun but in a very different way than a regular table normally is. The wavy playfield makes it very strange and it's difficult to get used to the unpredictable way the ball rolls around. Good thing you don't need to feed the machines with coins for every single game there... for the cover charge, you play as much as you like. To get used to this table, it'd take a lot of quarters at first 😛 26 minutes ago, ARMYAVIATION said: It’s gonna be hard to replicate the playfield. There is a plastic moon crater layer then the acrylic smooth layer that is rolling over it. The backglass is even 2 layers thick and is 3d I think it was 32assassin who made the current VPX table, so he managed to mimic the playfield somewhat. I have it but as mentioned, it would still need plenty of love and work to make it behave like the real table does. But it's a start. This table is absolutely unique, that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFR1 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 If ever there was a table to play at 4:20 it's this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFR1 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 What's up with Magic City? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider ARMYAVIATION Posted April 25, 2021 Author Content Provider Share Posted April 25, 2021 Matt wants to do a full render. He did some stuff on the PF image. I need to play it to see how it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dielated Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 Does it turn on for $100?! Pretty awesome find. Looks like a crazy game - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldschool4 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 Now that is different,are there magnets underneath to move the ball around like that? Or playfield uneven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider ARMYAVIATION Posted April 25, 2021 Author Content Provider Share Posted April 25, 2021 The mpu has battery corrosion damage and I will need to troubleshoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thalamus Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 Uups. Crossing my fingers for you. Very unique machine. And like mentioned, would be very hard to emulate properly. If only prims didn't act weird on the ball, it could probably be done. Stacking hundreds of very thin walls on each other to build "mountains". Uh. no. Don't think that will work very well either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider ARMYAVIATION Posted April 25, 2021 Author Content Provider Share Posted April 25, 2021 We made all those ramps for escape from the lost world out of primitives and the ball rolls fine on those. They were huge ramps but not a whole playfield. Maybe Matt and I will sit down and do a rough pf and see how it works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider ARMYAVIATION Posted April 25, 2021 Author Content Provider Share Posted April 25, 2021 I can also do a detailed blueprint based off of measurements of all posts, flippers, lights, sounds like you guys are Darin me to do this lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thalamus Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 I don't know. I agree. Escape from the lost world works great. It might be related to something else all together. What I have seen though, is that simple flat surfaces, like a flat wall could make the ball that is supposed to roll downwards all of a sudden can stop and actually run against the gravity. You can see the same kind of weirdness if you have a slow moving, almost stopped ball clinging into the rubber that is over 29 in hit height. Daring you ? Of course we are ;9 But, be smart about it. Don't tell us before you're well into the project or we won't ever leave you be, asking for progress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFR1 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 So is that rough pf done yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dielated Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 Progress report? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bord Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 I do believe this can be done well. At one point I added cupped inserts to a mesh playfield and sure enough, slow balls would get diverted or caught on them like a real machine. I'm sure getting it right will be a headache but also really cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htamas Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 20 hours ago, Oldschool4 said: Now that is different, are there magnets underneath to move the ball around like that? Or playfield uneven. It's the latter. As I mentioned, 32assassin managed to create this table in VPX and it works, sorta, but a lot of the weird ball movement is not how it is in real life. I assume it is very difficult to get that down, but the current table is proof that it should be doable for someone who is really good at building such a table (😉 Armyaviation or other very talented table builders 😛) For example, the existing table doesn't quite manage that strange case when the ball loops around the flippers but comes back into play when normally it would just drain. And those spinner bumpers also don't seem to be complete... in essence, it could be a base for a more elaborate and accurate version I suppose. No doubt that building this properly is a challenge, but it'd be awesome to have this emulated. Once Armyaviation has his table at home, he has the best chance of recreating it faithfully, having a direct reference immediately accessible, paired with his table building skills. And if he cooperates with bord or others, then it's guaranteed the result will be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFR1 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 Played this at a local pin place not too long ago. They were asking 1500 but that was before prices started going up. My gf's son got a kick out of it. . Fun table for non pinballers to play. And it would be a hoot to have a newer version for vpx. Not that I have a clue about anything but it seems whirlpool saucers like on Taxi/Diner have similar physics going on? Very cool find for 100 Tom!! If you spot a Fathom for 100 let me know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mihos Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 That is great deal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felsir Posted April 28, 2021 Share Posted April 28, 2021 If I understand correctly the playfield is a warped surface? Is it possible to map this in the VPX toolset? I don't know how feasible this is; but would it be possible to "map" the playfield as directional vector field? Either by sampeling some heightmap (this could be a bitmap- or a hardcoded, generated lookup table based on such heightmap). This could then sampled based on the ball's position and add forces to the ball? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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