Peza Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 Hi! when i put my 128 x 16 display evo in my data east batman i get no picture. the display works fine when i power it up and can change settings and so on. But when i put it in my game i get nothing. have tried differents ROM versions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider Terranigma Posted August 6, 2021 Content Provider Share Posted August 6, 2021 38 minutes ago, Peza said: Hi! when i put my 128 x 16 display evo in my data east batman i get no picture. the display works fine when i power it up and can change settings and so on. But when i put it in my game i get nothing. have tried differents ROM versions. Can you give us a bit more information? Is the EPROM installed in the Pin2dmd the correct way up? Is the Data cable in the right way in the Pin2dmd? What version of Pin2dmd do you have, V1.0 or V1.1? 1.0 will need some pads soldered/bridged together. Is enhancer set to on? Have you made sure it is set to De x16 and not Sega/Data East? Are you getting a blue LED flashing at the back of the Pin2dmd? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peza Posted August 6, 2021 Author Share Posted August 6, 2021 24 minutes ago, Terranigma said: Can you give us a bit more information? Is the EPROM installed in the Pin2dmd the correct way up? Is the Data cable in the right way in the Pin2dmd? What version of Pin2dmd do you have, V1.0 or V1.1? 1.0 will need some pads soldered/bridged together. Is enhancer set to on? Have you made sure it is set to De x16 and not Sega/Data East? Are you getting a blue LED flashing at the back of the Pin2dmd? Thanks Eprom, yes right way datacable tried Both ways 1.0 have soldered enchancer on and tried it off to DE 128x16 check no blue flash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider Terranigma Posted August 6, 2021 Content Provider Share Posted August 6, 2021 Was your old dmd working ok before you swapped in the pin2dmd? No blue led I believe means no communication from your machine to the pin2dmd. The x16 pin2dmd contains the dmd driver as well. The z80 cpu, is that fitted the correct way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peza Posted August 6, 2021 Author Share Posted August 6, 2021 44 minutes ago, Terranigma said: Was your old dmd working ok before you swapped in the pin2dmd? No blue led I believe means no communication from your machine to the pin2dmd. The x16 pin2dmd contains the dmd driver as well. The z80 cpu, is that fitted the correct way? Yes it was working z80 is right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peza Posted August 6, 2021 Author Share Posted August 6, 2021 * correct way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider Terranigma Posted August 6, 2021 Content Provider Share Posted August 6, 2021 Ok so far it sounds like you have done everything right. Did you make sure you burnt the display rom to the eprom and not the game rom? Do you have another Pin2dmd to test or is this your only one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peza Posted August 7, 2021 Author Share Posted August 7, 2021 On 8/6/2021 at 4:42 PM, Terranigma said: Ok so far it sounds like you have done everything right. Did you make sure you burnt the display rom to the eprom and not the game rom? Do you have another Pin2dmd to test or is this your only one? Have trots another pin2dmd from same order. Same result.. now gonna look with friends for another data east game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider Terranigma Posted August 7, 2021 Content Provider Share Posted August 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Peza said: Have trots another pin2dmd from same order. Same result.. now gonna look with friends for another data east game! Can you take a good clear photo of the back of your Pin2dmd just so we can make sure everything looks good? From what you have said, it sounds like everything is correct but just to be sure. If your original DMD works ok then it sounds like something to do with the Pin2dmd. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peza Posted August 8, 2021 Author Share Posted August 8, 2021 https://jonkoping-my.sharepoint.com/:f:/g/personal/barpe_jonkoping_se/EvoTKLgw3FdPsrKJnf1DwDYBTBjg_UU33TlzlmndZlgifQ?e=X4sz5E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider lucky1 Posted August 9, 2021 Content Provider Share Posted August 9, 2021 Solder bridges don´t look perfect on the pictures. Please check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peza Posted August 9, 2021 Author Share Posted August 9, 2021 15 hours ago, lucky1 said: Solder bridges don´t look perfect on the pictures. Please check. but they are ok, have tested with multimeter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider lucky1 Posted August 10, 2021 Content Provider Share Posted August 10, 2021 There is an easy way to test the pin2dmd together with the ROM by just bridging PIN 1 (GND) and PIN 20 (RESET). Every time you do this you should see the ROM version displayed on the screen and the the blue LED should flicker. Also set all settings to default for Batman by initiating reset config in the onscreen menu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peza Posted August 10, 2021 Author Share Posted August 10, 2021 7 hours ago, lucky1 said: There is an easy way to test the pin2dmd together with the ROM by just bridging PIN 1 (GND) and PIN 20 (RESET). Every time you do this you should see the ROM version displayed on the screen and the the blue LED should flicker. Also set all settings to default for Batman by initiating reset config in the onscreen menu. Didnt work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider Terranigma Posted August 10, 2021 Content Provider Share Posted August 10, 2021 36 minutes ago, Peza said: Didnt work I have had an issue in the past with the EPROM. I had to re-insert the EPROM and wiggle it a little while it was in to make sure it was making proper contact, it can take a bit of force so be careful. The EPROM I used was brand new and didn't have any build up on the pins. Not 100% sure what was causing it but you may want to try that and see if it helps. Also check your EPROM pins to make sure the pins are clean, I can't quite tell from your picture. You may also want to check the solder joins of the eprom socket to the PCB and make sure they are all correctly soldered. You also said your pads were bridged when you checked via multimeter. A few look like they are not 100%, I would still do those again to make sure they look clean, especially the points DE and DCL even if you're getting a good reading, just to make sure. I'm sure lucky will also have a suggestion for you, but obviously if the EPROM isn't being read then you won't get anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider lucky1 Posted August 10, 2021 Content Provider Share Posted August 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Peza said: Didnt work Did you set the device mode to DataEast 128x16 ? Latest ROM version is 1.06. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peza Posted August 10, 2021 Author Share Posted August 10, 2021 36 minutes ago, lucky1 said: Did you set the device mode to DataEast 128x16 ? Latest ROM version is 1.06. Yes de 128x16 rom 1.06 works perfekt with my Original display Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deas Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 I dont think the pin2dmd has no contact with the mpu . The pin2dmd starts up and i can go in the meny but no picture from the game whit or whitout the SD card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider Terranigma Posted August 19, 2021 Content Provider Share Posted August 19, 2021 On 8/11/2021 at 12:17 AM, Peza said: On 8/10/2021 at 10:17 PM, Terranigma said: I have had an issue in the past with the EPROM. I had to re-insert the EPROM and wiggle it a little while it was in to make sure it was making proper contact, it can take a bit of force so be careful. The EPROM I used was brand new and didn't have any build up on the pins. Not 100% sure what was causing it but you may want to try that and see if it helps. Also check your EPROM pins to make sure the pins are clean, I can't quite tell from your picture. You may also want to check the solder joins of the eprom socket to the PCB and make sure they are all correctly soldered. You also said your pads were bridged when you checked via multimeter. A few look like they are not 100%, I would still do those again to make sure they look clean, especially the points DE and DCL even if you're getting a good reading, just to make sure. How did you go with this? Did you adjust the eprom and redo the bridges? You will get a similar symptom with an eprom that isn't making 100% contact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider Terranigma Posted August 19, 2021 Content Provider Share Posted August 19, 2021 7 hours ago, Deas said: I dont think the pin2dmd has no contact with the mpu . The pin2dmd starts up and i can go in the meny but no picture from the game whit or whitout the SD card. Please check the thread from the top and make sure all things are checked. On 8/6/2021 at 8:55 PM, Terranigma said: Is the EPROM installed in the Pin2dmd the correct way up? Is the Data cable in the right way in the Pin2dmd? What version of Pin2dmd do you have, V1.0 or V1.1? 1.0 will need some pads soldered/bridged together. Is enhancer set to on? Have you made sure it is set to De x16 and not Sega/Data East? Are you getting a blue LED flashing at the back of the Pin2dmd? On 8/6/2021 at 9:43 PM, Terranigma said: Was your old dmd working ok before you swapped in the pin2dmd? No blue led I believe means no communication from your machine to the pin2dmd. The x16 pin2dmd contains the dmd driver as well. The z80 cpu, is that fitted the correct way? Also please take a picture of the back of your Pin2dmd so we can check. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deas Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 5 hours ago, Terranigma said: Please check the thread from the top and make sure all things are checked. Also please take a picture of the back of your Pin2dmd so we can check. Thanks Terranigma we have already post picture hear of the back. And yes the Eprom is in right direction . I have tryed everything you and Lucky1 has told me and even whit 2 others from the same batch. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider Terranigma Posted August 19, 2021 Content Provider Share Posted August 19, 2021 56 minutes ago, Deas said: Terranigma we have already post picture hear of the back. And yes the Eprom is in right direction . I have tryed everything you and Lucky1 has told me and even whit 2 others from the same batch. Thanks Are you and Peza working with the same pcbs? I have had 1 DE x16 PCB with a similar issue but not exact. I have not found a solution for that one yet. The other one was giving the same symptoms as yours and I had to re insert the eprom again (and I burnt a new one). I will leave it to lucky to see if he can suggest anything else as it seems we have covered the basics. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deas Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 3 hours ago, Terranigma said: Are you and Peza working with the same pcbs? I have had 1 DE x16 PCB with a similar issue but not exact. I have not found a solution for that one yet. The other one was giving the same symptoms as yours and I had to re insert the eprom again (and I burnt a new one). I will leave it to lucky to see if he can suggest anything else as it seems we have covered the basics. Thanks I buy it from Peza . So i borrowed 2 other from him and they have the same problem. ok thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider lucky1 Posted August 20, 2021 Content Provider Share Posted August 20, 2021 Which machine ? TMNT and CP need enhancer set to OFF to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deas Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 Still Batman DE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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