Content Provider scampa123 Posted January 6, 2021 Content Provider Share Posted January 6, 2021 I've been recently noticing some odd loading behavior and am hoping someone may have seen this or would know how to address. Some of my tables are taking a looong time to load and if I Alt-Tab I can see that VPX has a dialog sitting at "Starting Game Scripts". The tables eventually will load. I've tried this with Popper and directly from VPX. The tables happen to have PUP pacacks as well... Master of the Universe - This table was taking long (1.5mins+) to load. I found that if I had the table outside of my Tables folder it loaded really fast. Through many iterations I removed things from my tables dir until I figured out what it was. In this case it was was my B2STableSettings.xml. What's odd is that this table did not even have an entry in there. I found it was the defualt <DefaultStartMode> was set to 2 and if I changed to 1 it loaded fast again..In the end I added a block to the file for <motu> and had <StartAsEXE> set to 1 and changed the <DefaultStartMode> back to 1…and it seemed to work. I'm not sure what DefaultStartMode does for tables not running a B2S, but I can try setting it to 2..but I'm shooting in the dark here! I can't find a schema or explanation for the fields in the B2STableSettings.xml file... I tried to launch The Munsters this morning and I'm seeing similar behavior where it takes long to load sitting on "Starting Game Scripts". I haven't had a chance to see if I launch the table outside of the Tables folder if it will launch differently. Neither table runs a B2S. I suspect B2S runs due to DOF or something... I'm not even certain the problem is with B2S for Munsters, its just what I noticed helped MOTU...It is odd that I'm suddenly having this issue with multiple tables however...not all though. The only other thing I can think of is that recently install P-ROC and I'm trying to see if that registered something or messed with B2S in some way... Any ideas would be appreciated!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider scampa123 Posted January 6, 2021 Author Content Provider Share Posted January 6, 2021 I changed DefaultStartMode back to 2 and left the block for MOtu....It all seems to load fast again. I’m not really sure what it’s doing but it’s working I guess! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider scampa123 Posted January 9, 2021 Author Content Provider Share Posted January 9, 2021 turns out I'm still seeing this issue...anyone have any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danpow Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 hey @scampa123, i think i'm having the same issues as you. Did you get any further with your troubleshooting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider scampa123 Posted May 30, 2021 Author Content Provider Share Posted May 30, 2021 @danpowi changed the way I was using B2S in that I had B2S generate a new xml file. In my B2S settings I set X Offset equal to 1 which magically removes the grill and dmd from all tables and alleviated the need for so many entries in the xml files. I suspect my file had become too large for B2S and it would choke on it (just my theory). Since I made the change, and have a clean file, I have not seen the issue since. if you were to try it, I’d recommend you backup your existing xml just in case.. I hope it helps!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thalamus Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 Out of curiosity. Did you count number of db2s' in that file or the size it held on disk ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danpow Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 @scampa123thanks for the info - i've done some more testing and my problems completely stop when I 'disable B2S' in VPX prefs. I wish, like you, I could find more hard info on the xml schema... I did some reading and spotted that B2SBackglassServerRegisterApp.exe is supposed to be run as admin. It wasn't on my system. I only changed that today, and haven't had any problems yet, but it's early days... http://mjrnet.org/pinscape/BuildGuideV2/BuildGuide.php?sid=b2s if the problems reappear i'll look at implementing your xml changes and report back. @Thalamus my xml file only held entries for a dozen or so games, and is 16KB on disk, so i'm not sure the file size would be an issue in my circumstamce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thalamus Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 Thanks. No, that 16k is way smaller than what I thought you might have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider scampa123 Posted July 21, 2021 Author Content Provider Share Posted July 21, 2021 This started happening again. Many of my tables will hang for a while before starting due to my B2STableSettings.xml....How do I know it is that? Because if I remove the file from my tables directory my table will start fast.... I think something must have happened to it while updating the backglass for PROC Knight Rider... I tried removing the games block (I attached the bad one and there are only two as you will see) but the file still causes the issue.. I tried loading AC/DC and TAF (both with PUPs too if it matters).. I have found that if I remove the xml...launch a B2S table and right click to reenable my plugins it will generate a new xml which works for me...I've even copied over the Knight Rider block and saved and it works fine... So I'm running fine again (thankfully) and am documenting here for other... So my question is, what is writing the block to the file? Could the Knight Rider table have somehow done something to my xml file? Or does B2SServer have a scenario where it fails writing the file completely. The file itself appears normal (see attached), but something is wrong with it. Maybe encoding? Not sure… thanks gang B2STableSettings.xml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuekuekue Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 Did you ever come right with this? I'm having the exact same issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpradlin Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 I too am having this issue. I tried renaming the B2STableSettings.xml to a different name and it did in fact load the tables much faster. However, I ran into a problem where pup packs are either not loading or are loading to a position where I can't see them. Not sure if this is related to the change or if it was a system update that caused this as my screen numbers in VPX also got rearranged. I would say the slow load definitely has to do with the table settings file in some way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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