Content Provider 85vett Posted August 22, 2014 Content Provider Share Posted August 22, 2014 Time to start a WIP for this table as well. Not a lot of progress yet but it atleast shows it's been started. A lot of work to do but it should see the light of day in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolball Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 A dream come true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider unclewilly Posted August 22, 2014 Content Provider Share Posted August 22, 2014 Sweet. Can't wait. I really like this table. Hey if those are my primitive bumpers, select the bumper rings and change them to sphere map. That will get some metal texture on the posts. I noticed in the pic they are showing white. I just saw this in my pinball magic wip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider 85vett Posted August 22, 2014 Author Content Provider Share Posted August 22, 2014 Sweet. Can't wait. I really like this table. Hey if those are my primitive bumpers, select the bumper rings and change them to sphere map. That will get some metal texture on the posts. I noticed in the pic they are showing white. I just saw this in my pinball magic wip Yeah, I'm starting to use those bumpers since I saw them in MB. Much better than the walls we used before. I need to adjust that as well as play with the textures on the post as they are to transparent. That template table you made has come in handy. I hope someone makes a guide on making plastics out of primatives as that's something I'd like to start adding as well and have no clue what to do there. A dream come true. Saw several asking for this table so figured I'd start a WIP earlier than usual to help let everyone know it is truly being worked on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider unclewilly Posted August 22, 2014 Content Provider Share Posted August 22, 2014 The plastics are super simple. You just need to open a new table in fp. Set the dimensions to match the vp table. I use the vp dimension manager then convert inches to mm. Import your blueprint into fp. Place and size your plastic height also. . Save it. Then import it into blender, the whole table. Select the individual plastic. Export as obj. Make sure you have selection only checked. Then re import just that plastic into blender. Scale it by I can't remember the number off hand. .0019 I think. Uv unwrap it. Export the uv layout. Then export the obj. When you import into vp set the coordinates to 0 0 0 and scale by .97. It should be in the exact place and you're good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider freneticamnesic Posted August 22, 2014 Content Provider Share Posted August 22, 2014 That does sound easy, it's never easy...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loafmeister Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Lol @ fren It looks like its off to a good start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider gtxjoe Posted August 22, 2014 Content Provider Share Posted August 22, 2014 FYI - akiles50000 has a photo album of Stern Batman populated playfield hi-res pics. Ping him and he can make it available to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Blashyrk Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 I'm Batman!!! this is actually one of the few real tables I have played, looking forward to playing it in vp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider freneticamnesic Posted August 22, 2014 Content Provider Share Posted August 22, 2014 This table is so odd. Who the fuck is the scarecrow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowsclassic Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 That does sound easy, it's never easy...... It does???... I think ther are less steps in building a Cyclatron. I'm just glad you guys get it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider ICPjuggla Posted August 23, 2014 Content Provider Share Posted August 23, 2014 Nice!!!! :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider freneticamnesic Posted August 23, 2014 Content Provider Share Posted August 23, 2014 It does???... I think ther are less steps in building a Cyclatron. I'm just glad you guys get it! I don't get it, I just push buttons until something works or I give up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ain14 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 so good luck in the work, batman dark knight is a really cool machine to play! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider freneticamnesic Posted August 23, 2014 Content Provider Share Posted August 23, 2014 The plastics are super simple. You just need to open a new table in fp. Set the dimensions to match the vp table. I use the vp dimension manager then convert inches to mm. Import your blueprint into fp. Place and size your plastic height also. . Save it. Then import it into blender, the whole table. Select the individual plastic. Export as obj. Make sure you have selection only checked. Then re import just that plastic into blender. Scale it by I can't remember the number off hand. .0019 I think. Uv unwrap it. Export the uv layout. Then export the obj. When you import into vp set the coordinates to 0 0 0 and scale by .97. It should be in the exact place and you're good actually I've been thinking about this today........what is the benefit of using primitive plastics? I can't think of one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider unclewilly Posted August 23, 2014 Content Provider Share Posted August 23, 2014 I can only think of 2 benefits. 1 is higher resolution plastic images. As each plastic image can be around 1024 x 1024. Also for plastics with transparent edges you can show some thickness rather then a flat transparent ramp. Also In a case where the plastic may not be flat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider freneticamnesic Posted August 23, 2014 Content Provider Share Posted August 23, 2014 OK I think I can see that a little bit... on WWF my plastics are just walls, so side by side there's no benefit. The left slingshot is primitive, the right slingshot is a wall. But you brought up a good point, if I was using transparency on any plastics I would need to do a wall with a visible side and invisible top, then a ramp at the top height of the wall to get depth with transparency. But that can be achieved with primitives and then I only need one object... I can see benefit there. But I think in some applications it's not worth the effort? Am I right? I'm all about using primitives on everything but lord it's a pain in the ass doing each individual plastic in a primitive! Especially in this case, I had to make the wall first anyways. Maybe I'm just being difficult I need to mess with it some more. It definitely would get quicker the more I did it but it took 10 minutes to do the first one. So the only reason you do all the plastics separately is because of texture size? Have you tried doing a whole table with 1 plastic primitive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider unclewilly Posted August 23, 2014 Content Provider Share Posted August 23, 2014 I usually use them, because I find shaping a surface in fp easier then in vp And you get a nice high res texture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider gtxjoe Posted August 24, 2014 Content Provider Share Posted August 24, 2014 I should try the fp plastics approach just to broaden my horizon. I think I have mostly used 1 big alpha ramp the size of the table for the plastics. I photoshopped the plastics edges on the farfalla table, since it has transparent areas. Can't tell from the pic fren, but you could add a style layer to the plastic and give it a beveled edge for a more 3d appearance also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider freneticamnesic Posted August 24, 2014 Content Provider Share Posted August 24, 2014 Actually I've tried that but always ran into issues with jagged edges using the inner bevel layer filter.....but I just tried it using the satin overlay and it actually looks good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider freneticamnesic Posted August 24, 2014 Content Provider Share Posted August 24, 2014 ok last question then this can get back to dark knight those slingshot plastics are the same primitive. when I imported, and it asked if I wanted to mirror UVs, I said no. So with this I can use the same texture and obj for mirrored primitives like slingshots and lane guides. Do you see any issues with doing this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider 85vett Posted August 24, 2014 Author Content Provider Share Posted August 24, 2014 I was thinking of using primatives for the plastics as I normally use ramps. I was thinking the primatives would make it easier to get things lined up. I almost never use walls anymore as I have such a hard time getting them to line up correctly. Anyways, now that 8Ball is uploaded, I'll put more focus on this table. My wife is really looking forward to this one so I've got some added pressure ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider unclewilly Posted August 24, 2014 Content Provider Share Posted August 24, 2014 If you need any help with anything, let me know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider freneticamnesic Posted August 24, 2014 Content Provider Share Posted August 24, 2014 I think it would be a harder time.... lining things up in vp, then fp, then exporting to blender and vp... it seems like a lot of work to me! I need to try to do this from the start though. I just did all the plastics on wwf in fp > blender> primitive and it is something else. You need to use the smart uv unwrap otherwise it distorts the uv outline and it makes it hard to texture. Is that right? I'll try that on my next table..................... maybe I've not given it a fair shake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider unclewilly Posted August 24, 2014 Content Provider Share Posted August 24, 2014 Yes smart uv unwrap. The maybe resize the layout a bit.. For me I will do all the plastics in fp. Which is faster for me then vp. Import the table in blender. Then export them one at a time. Then as I add them to the vp table I'll size and uvmap them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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