After graphics card upgrade my PinballX installation is all messed up (videos gone etc.)

[Mopple]

Hi, I need help, please: 

 

After a display adapter / graphics card upgrade (to an Nvidia 5060) my PinballX installation is all messed up: 

 

*When starting PinballX, all recorded backglasses, DMDs and playfields are now gone! I can select pinballs but only the wheels show up on a black screen. 

 

*Even weirder, my PinballX table selection menu shows tables that I can select and load but that don't show up in the Game Manager! 

 

As you can see in the attached photos, "Trident", "Truck Stop" and "Twilight Zone" are selectable but they don't show up in the Game Manager!?

 

All recorded mp4 files are there in the "Tables" folder. 

 

I have absolutely no idea what to do or to make sense of all that. Am I missing something here? 

Any help to bring the demo videos back and get everything back to normal would be greatly appreciated. Thanks very much in advance.

Edited January 10 by Mopple

[deadmanworking]

@Mopple same thing happened to me with the previous to last Nvidia update in mid of December, I rolled back to November drivers and sitting this one out for the moment. 

[Mopple]

So you think this is a driver problem? A "wrong" Nvidia driver caused this? 

 

And with the November drivers you could solve your problem? 

 

Thanks for answering and telling me I'm not the only one!  (If anybody else has any other idea I'll gladly take it of course). 

 

Thank you again for now and all the best for 2026!

[deadmanworking]

For me it was 100% the driver since while troubleshooting in different directions I could replicate the error multiple times. Rolling back to the previously installed drivers gave me back the videos. 

[Mopple]

Since there's also this ongoing issue of mine with different or insufficient frame rates in different tables (which is a topic of its own I will post soon) I've decided to further upgrade to a RTX 5060 Ti 16GB card, which should finally solve this issue, and in doing so I'll make a fresh install of VPX. 

 

Feel free to reply to the frame rate topic when it's hopefully posted in the next few days. 🙂

 

Thank you again and good luck for everything you do!

[johnsypin2]

Same thing happened to my RTX 3060 cabinet after installing the latest nvidia drivers. through december i noticed things were off in the first few versions. First i noticed that scale sharpness wasnt sticking after restarts. Then in the next driver more problems. now rotation wasnt working as it should as the screen would rotate but the mouse stayed in landscape position unable to make basic desktop mouse selections. i believe the messed up rotations in those nvidia driver versions of december are the culprit for the black screens missing media in pinball x.

But then, on the very latest nvidia driver, my worst ever fear is realized. the RTX fans arent spinning which is very worrying.

i read a forum that at cool temps they are off but to be honest ive never seen a gpu fans idol and inactive before, its making me think there was damage during the december drivers.

when trying to roll back, for some reason, the nvidia control panel went missing and even worse than that the GPU itself had dissapeared for the device manager.

with no fans working and nothing nvidia in the device manager i started to think my GPU was dead. after some failed attempts at  reinstalling older drivers but still no control panel or device manager entry i decided it was time to get the big guns out and used DDU driver remover tool. Found at the nvidia site.

 

DDU did the trick removing all and EVERY trace of the broken nvidia files making way for a clean install of v581.80 which brings back the media to pinball x and re added my RTX 3060 to device manager

 

for anyone facing the same issues, use DDU tool to remove the broken driver, then install nvidia driver v581.80

[Mopple]

Thank you so much for this information, I didn't know that but will definitely use it in the days to come: 
 

I finally decided to buy a big-a** RTX 5070, which is massive, compared to all the cards I had before! I even had to buy a new power supply with a 12-pin connector. 

 

As soon as time allows I will assemble the new hardware and then try the DDU tool before (probably) performing a fresh VPX install. 

 

But a freakin' 5070, just to move a little "ball" object smoothly from side to side on a more or less static 2D background playfield just has to be enough, even in 4K and 144 fps, wouldn't you agree? It cost me 600 EUR + 100 for the power supply but all I want is smooth gameplay, stutter-free and with stable 144 frame rates. 

 

I read that VPX still hasn't implemented DLSS, which seems to have quite a big impact on performance and quality. Wouldn't that be long overdue? Any news on that, maybe? 

 

Happy Sunday and greetings!

[FrankelyCamilo]

Trata de mirar las imagenes, si tienes imagenes con el nombre de la tabla se ubica en primera posicion.
si necesitas ayuda avisame.

[Mopple]

Hi again! 

 

Sorry for having been busy the last couple weeks and not being able to reply sooner. 

 

Just wanted to give you and everyone interested a little update on the matter: 

 

The demo/selection mode clips of PinballX haven't returned but that has turned out not to be a real problem after all because I did the following: 

 

*I found a nice, moody and unobtrusive vertical desktop wallpaper image online (some hills at night with a starry sky above), turned down the brightness a bit and replaced it with the default image of PinballX if there is no recorded clip of the table. That default image folder is PinballX/ Media/ Images, the name of the image is "No Table.png".

 

*I also took the small liberty to replace the default loading image with my own version - I would have included a blinking cursor but wouldn't know how to do that). That folder is PinballX/ Media/ Loading Images, the name of the image is "Loading.png". 

 

I really have to say I don't miss the demo clips of the backglasses and tables in the selection mode at all! If a future NVIDIA driver update should bring them back I'll see what I'll do but I'm perfectly happy with the current look. After all it's not about demo clips but playing pinball. 🙂

 

My experiences with my new RTX 5070 I'll post separately. 

Thanks for reading and CU!

 

PS reg. the attached photos: It looks better on my actual pinball cabinet monitor, esp. the loading image is all black except for the dark red font🙂

Edited February 8 by Mopple

[johnsypin2]

@Mopple and anyone else with a juddery or stuttery ball with vpx.

 

Its not necasarry to upgrade to huge powered GPUs to have the ball run smothly in vpx.

I know this as i first built my cabinet a few years back using the old GTX range 1050oc.

A smooth rolling ball for vpx is achieved by tweaking a few options while the table is running, then restarting the table.

Its actualy all to do with priority levels for each screen. some prefer the backglass to load first and some dont. some prefer to "start in exe". for the tables that have a juddery ball simply run the table through vpx on its own with no pinball x loaded. move the mouse to backglass screen and right click. Here on the backglass the backglass settings will appear. find the box on the right and change it to "start in exe" and save. The change will take effect next time the table is loaded. Do this with the juddery tables only, leaving the others how they are.

this can also be done by editing the tables list database file.  Doing it that way you can edit many problematic tables at once.

 

Glad to help about the DDU uninstaller tool too. Again for anyone facing no media black screen issues rolling back to nvidia v581.80 resolves the issue.

 

i have also tackled 7 pc games that are all known for stutter, low framerates or hitching. In a 120fps world its not good that some games, particularly unreal engine games sometimes cant even achieve 60fps and dwindle between 35-45 fps. the games i have made 60fps smoothness mods for are :-

 

Silent Hill 2024 (better all round performance and hair strands)

Jedi fallen order (sharper, clearer, no stutter, no battle pause stutter)

Jedi survivor (better and smoother level streaming)

Final Fantasy VII Remake (no hitching)

Final Fantasy XV (gamings most hitching and stuttery game smoothed and 60fps)

Terminator Resistance (feels more far cry or call of duty and less unreal engine shooter)

Alone in the Dark 2024 (a smooth running character and improved level streaming)

 

If anyone is interested in running those at consistent 60fps with no motion blur or blur of field you can find them all in a single pack at my patreon at :-

 

patreon.com/pcgamesmoother