(Solved) Most EM Tables WIll Not Show Running Scoring In VR

[Spacegoogie]

Looking for some help. Long story short, went from a full 4 screen cab to a one screen VR cab setup.

All my tables work, even pup packs work.

The problem is a lot of EM tables are not showing a score (in VR), most of the time its all zeros and what looks to be the tables default static backglass image.

If I look at my PC monitor  you can see the B2S with a working score. If I launch the table outside of VR its also just fine.

I have looked through the table scripts to look for things that might affect this  but have not had any luck.

Can someone please help me to figure this out?

 

Thanks much for any insight on this!🍻

 

 

Edited February 3, 2025 by Spacegoogie

[studly_do_right]

On 1/2/2025 at 2:24 AM, Spacegoogie said:

Looking for some help. Long story short, went from a full 4 screen cab to a one screen VR cab setup.

All my tables work, even pup packs work.

The problem is a lot of EM tables are not showing a score (in VR), most of the time its all zeros and what looks to be the tables default static backglass image.

If I look at my PC monitor  you can see the B2S with a working score. If I launch the table outside of VR its also just fine.

I have looked through the table scripts to look for things that might affect this  but have not had any luck.

Can someone please help me to figure this out?

 

Thanks much for any insight on this!🍻

 

 

Do you have "Capture External Backglass" selected in the VPX/VR Options?

[Spacegoogie]

57 minutes ago, studlygoorite said:

Do you have "Capture External Backglass" selected in the VPX/VR Options?

I do,  This is why I don't get it. My Pup Packs work in VR,  Most tables work  but EM's do not. 

I have tried different ver of VPX, B2s, and Vpinmame.

Thank you for asking, I have posted in several areas on multiple platforms and you my friend are the first to ask.🍻 

[studly_do_right]

5 hours ago, Spacegoogie said:

I do,  This is why I don't get it. My Pup Packs work in VR,  Most tables work  but EM's do not. 

I have tried different ver of VPX, B2s, and Vpinmame.

Thank you for asking, I have posted in several areas on multiple platforms and you my friend are the first to ask.🍻 

What table specifically gives you this issue (just pick one  ) I assume you are using a table that "requires" the b2s to be placed in the same folder as the table and named the same?  You can also join our Discord VR Pinball Group, lots of helpful  people there. https://discord.gg/G2E8QAtz86 

[Spacegoogie]

Ok here is one, 

 

Now outside VR this table is fine, scoring on backglass and all.

I don't think I have come across one EM table that shows the score in VR  it seems to be a static image.

Unfortunately discord is not an option for me. 

Again I really appreciate you taking the time to help out with this🍻

 

P.S.

running VPX GL RC7 latest B2s, and Pinmame.

I have  tried various ver of VPX, B2s, and Pinmame with now good results.

 

Edited January 6, 2025 by Spacegoogie

[Ext2k]

Do you have this problem with all tables? I think is a config problem, the B2S needs the same name than table and placed in the same tables path.

Check your VPX config and tell me if your first monitor is the playfield monitor.

Or make me a captured image of your config.

In our disscord group our people can help to solve these issues, it's a nice place.

But if you don't join to discord please make a pics

[Spacegoogie]

18 hours ago, Ext2k said:

Do you have this problem with all tables? I think is a config problem, the B2S needs the same name than table and placed in the same tables path.

Check your VPX config and tell me if your first monitor is the playfield monitor.

Or make me a captured image of your config.

In our disscord group our people can help to solve these issues, it's a nice place.

But if you don't join to discord please make a pics

Ok, sorry guys maybe I'm not being clear.

Running VPX GL 64 RC7 latest B2s, and Vpinmame.

 

Outside of VR, When I am not using VR, ALL my tables WORK, from PUPPACKS,  ALT SOUND, to COLOR ROMS, EVERYTHING WORKS.

 

 

When using VR, EM tables do not show a scoring.  If I look outside my VR headset I can see the B2s with working score on my computer monitor not in VR, VR is like a static image.

 

Thanks again for the help.

 

 

[Spacegoogie]

This issue  has been SOLVED!

Thank you guys for helping. 

Just the ideas alone help me discover what the issue was and something I never thought of until I had a discussion with A.I. about this  issue.

 

Come to find out my screen.res file had Backgrounds> 1< (on) so my guess was it was interfering with the B2s in VR.

Changed that to >0< loaded up tables that did not work and now they do!

 

I  knew it was some shit thing like this. 

Again, Thank you guys for stopping by to help me get this right!🍻 🍻

I really hope anyone else having issues like this discovers this as a  possible fix before they rip there hair out lol.

 

(Broke my Q3 the other day , USB cable ribbon came off at solder points, $170 to fix, Gonna keep this for parts and just get another  Q3 512gb. The one that just broke had the 128gb.)

[GeoffA]

Hi Spacegoogle,

I have also been having this issue since I built my new VR cab.  When I play these EM games on my three screen cab I see the scores, if I play in 2D desktop mode on the VR cab I can see the scores on the left and right side. But in VR mode the backless is static and the scores do not change, or ball number, etc. I am not sure where you see this background parameter, I do not see this line in my screen.res file (which is in my tables folder).  

Some games, like Capt. Fantastic work correctly, but all of these DT-FS-VR-MR tables do not have back glasses that display the score (example: Aspen (Brunswick 1979) JP v55 DT-FS-VR-MR Ext2k Conversion). Any suggestions? Also seeing this in one DMD game, the new Baywatch (Baywatch (Sega 1995) LW (nFozzy))

[Spacegoogie]

57 minutes ago, GeoffA said:

Hi Spacegoogle,

I have also been having this issue since I built my new VR cab.  When I play these EM games on my three screen cab I see the scores, if I play in 2D desktop mode on the VR cab I can see the scores on the left and right side. But in VR mode the backless is static and the scores do not change, or ball number, etc. I am not sure where you see this background parameter, I do not see this line in my screen.res file (which is in my tables folder).  

Some games, like Capt. Fantastic work correctly, but all of these DT-FS-VR-MR tables do not have back glasses that display the score (example: Aspen (Brunswick 1979) JP v55 DT-FS-VR-MR Ext2k Conversion). Any suggestions? Also seeing this in one DMD game, the new Baywatch (Baywatch (Sega 1995) LW (nFozzy))

What's good GeoffA,

The line I am referring to is a line I added a year or so ago. I had a complete custom layout out and I used the background for my fake FDMD on all my tables.

I had forgotten to remove that line so when the tables loaded with the Background on ( but no image linked to the background) so it was giving me a blank screen that was covering up the tables backglass and scores.

 

I'm not sure how this would all work with more than two screens.  My second screen is divided into 3 parts : Backglass, FDMD, DMD. ( all need to be visible on the second monitor,  with no overlapping,  I noticed this can cause issues with Backglasses and dmd's in VR if they are overlapping) maybe try a two monitor setup first then work your way back. I completely started with a fresh install for only dedicated VR setup. Make sure the lines in the tables script are set to VR on. Try different settings as far as Desktop, FSS, NoFSS, etc.

I know I have had a few tables not work then work based on making this change alone.

"if I play in 2D desktop mode on the VR cab I can see the scores on the left and right side. But in VR mode the backless is static and the scores do not change, or ball number, etc"

This definitely sounds like a desktop / cabinet setting issue. 

Are you using OpenComposit or Steam for VR connect? It's really hard to pinpoint what the issue could be, as you can see from the amount of responses I received from my plead for help lol.

Make sure all you screens are in the right place. Check you Screen.rez, your B2S screen setups. 

 

I will always start with the bassics and if that works add the next thing. 🍻

[GeoffA]

Hi Spaceoogle,

My VR is a single screen setup. I built this from scratch. I am using openComposit, Virtual Desktop and Virtual Display Driver (so I don't need a physical monitor). Most games work, and the backless does appear. It just seems to be these DT-FS-VR-MR tables where the score or the backless, seem to be static. I do have the correct backless and name with the table file in the tables folder. I have upgraded to the released version of VPX 8. So the only place I do not see a working backless is in VR on the above mentioned tables. The tables themselves do play, but it would be nice to know my score (as low as it usually is  ).

thanks.

[GeoffA]

Turns out it was the b2s file I was using. 

 

[soons]

GeoffA, I am having the same problem. Could you elaborate on the b2s file you were using?  I'm not sure what that is. 

Thanks

[Spacegoogie]

It's the backglass that goes with a table, most Ext2k Conversion need the b2s file.

 

 

Cheers!