B2S PRO Server Setup

After installing this, any table with pup only (no backglass) or a vpx file without the backglass file  became incredibly slow and unplayable.

Installed latest b2sserver version of github again to solve the issue.

I installed

Not working and the previous version not working anymore

How to roll back?

Updated

I deleted all B2sServer 2.1.6 files ( keeping the old plugins folders for pinup) and reinstalled B2server  pro.

Now it working fine

Thank you

15 hours ago, Wildman said:

replace these 2 files in your server folder and tell me if it works ,,,i did find a issue, 

B2SBackglassServer.dll 927 kB · 10 downloads B2SBackglassServerEXE.exe 783 kB · 10 downloads

I updates to these two new version and it fixed Scared Stiffs spider issues on the backglass, thank you   I also get terrible lag in any pup pack I run when trying to use the flippers, even with these two new files.

Has everybody, who is lagging, installed their files in a seperate B2SPro folder? Or has anybody lagging issues with the setup performed in /vpin/TABLES/ folder as well? 

12 hours ago, Wildman said:

Did you have the bad stutter  like the other guys using pup? And are all your tables playing good again? And do all the new bg in b2s pro work ?

Any system updated, I use to play in my laptop Dell  I7 7500 Geforce 940MX 4GB, 16 GB DDR4 first before to install in my cabinets

I play VPX GL 64 - 2051, Vpinmame 3.7 last release and DMD extensions 2.5 in Cabinet mode with Playfield in second monitor and BG on Laptop

I played about five tables with PUP. No stutter issues.

I played around four VPW tables and no issues

And the new and old BG file worked fine

I will test a bit more.

Update

If some peopleo play in Desktop mode without BackGlass file, there will be stutter or the the table will not work properly.

Second update

I was playing Pinup table with Backglass file and the pup video on fullDMD.

If I remove the backglass file, the stutter comes up.

It is really a issue.

At moment to work fine the system needs the backglass file

So in VPX "configuration, Keys,nudge and DOF" section I disable direct B2S

Thats work fine but is not correct solution

It's the same for me, tables with puppack  work only if there is a B2S backglass. 

@qwerter18 I installed the B2SPro files inside my Tables folder.  The B2SPro files for NBA Fastbreak, Catacomb, and Terminator 3 work beautifully on my setup.

Also tested all of the Pup-Pack tables (or rom tables where I'm also using a pup pack) in my library for ball stutter.  @Wildman Here's what I found...

Working perfectly with zero issues or ball stutter:

Guardians Of The Galaxy

John Wick (Babayaga)

Playboy (Stern)

The Matrix (Pincredibles)

Total Nuclear Annihilation

Tron Legacy

Unplayable due to continuous ball stutter:

Batman 66

Darkest Dungeon

Iron Maiden Legacy Of The Beast

For the record, all tables in my library utilizing an Ultra DMD work perfectly as well.  Same for the TerryRed Future Pinball tables.

PC specs:

AMD Ryzen 7 9700X

DDR5-6000 32GB RAM

Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080

Hope this helps with any future B2SPro updates...

16 hours ago, Wildman said:

Try what emanoel299 did couple of post up . Atleast see if there is 2 server setups that could be the problem with the lag, but i can't confirm it from here yet.

I deleted all files in my B2SServer folder that sits inside the Visual Pinball folder Leaving just the two Plugin folders and installed the New Server into that folder.  No other server files are anywhere including the tables folder.  I did install the BS2Pro Editor as well if that means anything....

@Wildman I just tested all of my (Pup Pack) tables that had ball stutter issues, and they work perfectly with the updated B2SPro Server.exe file.  Absolutely no ball stutter on my setup.  Thank you!

However, I did notice a couple things that may have been affected with the update...

DOF now appears to be disabled on all tables.  The only visible DOF is during attract mode in Popper FrontEnd.  When a table is selected, all lights and toys that I have running through DOF becomes inactive when the table loads...in Popper and in VPX Editor.

Also, for all (non-pup pack) rom tables, the DMD is blank when a table is loaded.

Not sure if you or anyone else has noticed any similar or additional issues, but wanted to point those 2 things out.

Can verify b2s server pro 3.0.8 MUCH better now. I see no more lag at all on tables with pup but no b2s. Awesome! 

Thanks again OG @Wildman for moving vpinball forward!

Fantastic new animated b2s backglasses (LOVE LOVE LOVE the new EM reels!!) and a fresh new and powerful Pro Designer and a new server to make it all work together. Exciting times, sir!

I installed into these directories:

C:\Visual Pinball

C:\Visual Pinball\B2SPro

Afterwards, B2S file were not working.

I restarted the PC, and nothing worked still.  

I did the restore operation - and same results, no B2S.

I restarted again, to see if that helped - it didn't.

I added my DirectOutput links into the plugins folder and got them working (after some trial and error)

Both directB2S and B2SPro are working great with DOF.

Thank You WildMan for this update - it's going to be exciting seeing how this improves our gameplay experiences.   

Thank you Wildman. This update fixed the shuttering. I was having.

I updated to v3.0.8 and Pups now work flawlessly and the new Pro backglasses look terrific also.  Thank you for all of your hard work and especially the troubleshooting

13 hours ago, Wildman said:

That good news for pup, I would check your plug in folder for the other issue,   if you used the old installer you might have over written the files ,the new installer  prevent that issue . also check that you updated the right server path and didnt create another one. it just sounds like its not finding your plugins.. check your folder and make sure only 1 server  is set up.

@Wildman Figured out the issue.  The Server Folder file path was incorrect.  Used the Restore Previous Setup function to revert back to the very beginning, and also realized I needed to add back my DirectOutput folders back into both PlugIns folders.  

Re-downloaded version 3.0.8 to the correct locations and everything works perfectly.  Thank you again for everything, especially the ability to restore a previous version!

Almost all my pup tables work now, thanks Wildman!
Only two still doesn't work me, Top Gun and Tiger King.

Walking dead from Flupper still doesn't work and I found also GB and CCC doesn't work neither, all three have script errors now. For WD, I tried both version with many different backglass and none works.

However Banzai Run (with 2 screens) works now, when I had a problem for a long time! 😍

So 5 tables have problem currently with this new B2S server on my system. 
I think I have checked all my "special" tables now.

I have not done too much testing yet but I upgraded and so far I haven't had any issues. Dumb question: One way I usually test a backglass is to just double-click the .directb2s but that doesn't seem to work with the new file format. Should I point at the new server as the app for this?

21 hours ago, lonchaney said:

Almost all my pup tables work now, thanks Wildman!
Only two still doesn't work me, Top Gun and Tiger King.

Walking dead from Flupper still doesn't work and I found also GB and CCC doesn't work neither, all three have script errors now. For WD, I tried both version with many different backglass and none works.

However Banzai Run (with 2 screens) works now, when I had a problem for a long time! 😍

So 5 tables have problem currently with this new B2S server on my system. 
I think I have checked all my "special" tables now.

A little update to tell you I've got a solution for all 5 tables.

Walking Dead, Tiger King and Top Gun work perfectly when using VPX 10.7 !
GB and CCC worked without backglass, so, since they are statics, I just asked Pinball Y to let the backglass videos on and voila, its exactly the same as the backglass themselves! Thanks again, Wildman, I'm very happy 

5 hours ago, Wildman said:

what did it do when you double clicked on it before  to test it ? or what did it open?   mine were always set to open in the designer so I dont know anything else

Mine just opened the backglass on the screen so I didn't have to run the table to check it out. the .directb2s files still open this way, even with Pro installed. It's just the pro back glasses that don't.