Krentz Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 I’m just getting started looking into creating and modding tables. I have watched a few tutorials about how to use the editor, edit tables, access the scripts, etc., so I’m wanting to dive in on a project. The first project I am wanting to do is to modify the rules for Gottlieb Genie to match the updated Pascal board rules since I have one of those and prefer the updated Pascal rules and lighting effects. However I have hit a bit of a wall. Looking over the script that was included with the table I downloaded, I see a lot of code for physics, code for flippers and key mapping, code for sounds, but I don’t actually see the game logic anywhere. Am I looking in the wrong place? Is the game logic controlled by the ROM? It’s pretty difficult to modify a ROM, right? Are there way to “override” game rules through the script? How to people write game rules for custom tables? Clearly I lack understanding for how these things work, so any info or links to help me learn is appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LynnInDenver Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 Yeah, for a game like Genie, it's going to be tough because it's a black box... you'd be better off reconstructing the rules entirely in VPX and ditching the ROM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krentz Posted April 6, 2023 Author Share Posted April 6, 2023 Ok cool, I didn't realize that ditching the ROM was an option. I will look into some other games that have the rules in the script to get a starting point. Are there things in the ROM that I would need? Are the sound effects in there somehow? Or is that all in the VPX file and I can just throw the whole thing away? Thanks! Maybe another option is to ask Pascal if I could get the ROM from his board? Is that a thing that would make sense to him? Is the ROM that VPX uses the same as what they put in the... uh, chips? I barely know how board development works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeH Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 I think it will be quite a task to code everything from scratch. There is a Future Pinball version of the table that has no ROM: https://pinballnirvana.com/forums/resources/genie-gottlieb-1979-bam-mod.7993/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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