redbone Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 I don't know if I'll ever be allowed to release this, but I have reworked TNA playfield and plastics. Still have no contact from previous authors. It's turning out beautiful though for at least personal play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slydog43 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 WOW, that looks great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashleyb Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Looks great @redbone I believe there’s a version of TNA coming from VPW at some point also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redbone Posted March 3, 2023 Author Share Posted March 3, 2023 5 hours ago, ashleyb said: Looks great @redbone I believe there’s a version of TNA coming from VPW at some point also. Yep, I understand that they are... I'm going to keep working on mine too in hopes they might be able to use some of my resources or I get an opportunity to release one as well one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redbone Posted March 3, 2023 Author Share Posted March 3, 2023 Here is yet another update of my progression: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redbone Posted March 13, 2023 Author Share Posted March 13, 2023 I've tidied up the pinstripes on the plastics. If someone knows whom I should contact for a release, please let me know here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashleyb Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 51 minutes ago, redbone said: I've tidied up the pinstripes on the plastics. If someone knows whom I should contact for a release, please let me know here... I think that TNA was developed by gtxjoe (I think), I’ve found him on here https://www.vpforums.org/index.php?showuser=62074 Or you could ask in this discord group if you’re already or become a member, https://discord.gg/X6HMKrTX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliory Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Looks great hope you will release it for us too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redbone Posted March 14, 2023 Author Share Posted March 14, 2023 If anyone wants it, this ball image looks ridiculous in this table. Import it and then just create another case in the script and add this in the right spot: ... ' redbone ball_plasma CustomBallGlow(10) = True CustomBallImage(10) = "ball_plasma" CustomBallLogoMode(10) = False CustomBallDecal(10) = "ball_plasma" CustomBulbIntensity(10) = 0 GBred(10) = 128 : GBgreen(10) = 128 : GBblue(10) = 128 ... Or if you use it in other tables - Just set the "ball image" and "decal" to the same image at the table properties on the visuals tab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcarter78 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 This looks fantastic, hope to be able to play it someday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redbone Posted March 15, 2023 Author Share Posted March 15, 2023 @gtxjoe I've sent you some private messages - let me know if you would allow me to do a release. I've rebuilt the plastics, smoothed out plastics in vpx editor, changed material of plastics to dynamic, upscaled playfield and reworked it a bit. It's a significant upgrade. I understand VPW may or may not be working on this table, but I feel what I've done is a significant increase of quality. PLUS - it's really not available anywhere at the moment??? vpdb.io is broken and i've only seen the 1.4 version for download. However, I have the base 1.5 version that I've been working with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slydog43 Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 How about a Diff release until you get a response. I think I downloaded 1.5 from vpinball before it went away, so I assume many others did too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichTX Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Per VPforum guidelines… All mods are acceptable as long as the original author is credited. The only exception for requiring permission is truly original tables. Since you’re nodding a commercial recreation you’re good to go the way I read it. https://www.vpforums.org/index.php?s=ac20e3fb75ef9b61c9b154ead367e36a&showtopic=49086 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappelbox Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 9 hours ago, RichTX said: Per VPforum guidelines… All mods are acceptable as long as the original author is credited. The only exception for requiring permission is truly original tables. Since you’re nodding a commercial recreation you’re good to go the way I read it. https://www.vpforums.org/index.php?s=ac20e3fb75ef9b61c9b154ead367e36a&showtopic=49086 that are vpforum "rules", not vp community general ones the point might be that this tables is having a 2nd run of production so, imho wait until that one finsihes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichTX Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 11 hours ago, Rappelbox said: that are vpforum "rules", not vp community general ones the point might be that this tables is having a 2nd run of production so, imho wait until that one finsihes. Actually, my understanding is that Noah and Dazz were in agreement on those guidelines unless you know something I don't. Per this post below, Noah personally spoke to the owner of Spooky and got permission, so I think that's probably a better guide to go by rather than your personal opinion. This has been debated over and over again and that's why Noah actually spoke with the copyright holders to get a definitive answer. https://www.vpforums.org/index.php?s=a4705317f7b7180d053838c39e3363dd&showtopic=49062 Excerpt... "Spooky Pinball (Allowed) America's Most Haunted Total Nuclear Annihilation Dominoes Charlie asked me to first ask him if we were to recreate their tables. Some of these companies have licensing agreements we do not want to jeopardize! If you would like me to ask on your behalf, feel free to reach out, and I'll give him a call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappelbox Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Imo it's tricky to get someones permission of releasing a mod if the original author left the scene or is simply not responding. I'm sure @redbone did his best to contact the author and since we're now past 3 weeks i'd say: give it a go... no selfish intentions involved BTW: Mod looks good forget about my comment about rerun of production Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcarter78 Posted April 7, 2023 Share Posted April 7, 2023 Just curious if you have any updates on this @redbone, did you ever get a response? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichTX Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 Tease time is over @redbone… time for a release please! Looking forward to playing your mod Buddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redbone Posted April 17, 2023 Author Share Posted April 17, 2023 I've not been able to get in touch with anyone regarding the table or the pup pack. I know there's a long history and some consternation over it, but don't know the details of it. I heard VPW was supposed to be working on it too, but also heard it stalled and they aren't. @TerryRed or @gtxjoe can either of you guys give me the OK or recommendation here? @Wylte do you know anything about it? Thanks!!! I don't want to get banned or blackballed in the scene. What's the protocol? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider Wylte Posted April 17, 2023 Content Provider Share Posted April 17, 2023 2 hours ago, redbone said: I heard VPW was supposed to be working on it too, but also heard it stalled and they aren't. @TerryRed or @gtxjoe can either of you guys give me the OK or recommendation here? @Wylte do you know anything about it? Thanks!!! I don't have a direct line to @gtxjoe and he hasn't been active for a couple months, but I brought this to the VPW discord and pinged him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider Pinballfan2018 Posted April 18, 2023 Content Provider Share Posted April 18, 2023 21 hours ago, redbone said: I've not been able to get in touch with anyone regarding the table or the pup pack. I know there's a long history and some consternation over it, but don't know the details of it. I heard VPW was supposed to be working on it too, but also heard it stalled and they aren't. @TerryRed or @gtxjoe can either of you guys give me the OK or recommendation here? @Wylte do you know anything about it? Thanks!!! I don't want to get banned or blackballed in the scene. What's the protocol? As far as the "pup pack".. Terry Red didn't make it. He put out propaganda that seemed that way.. But that's not a case, I made the original TNA Puppack/Pupdmd... And there's a reason why it's not available for download anymore. And I'm not sure Vpuniverse or you wants a company like Blizzard Studios coming at you if it is released here in a public download setting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichTX Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 On 4/17/2023 at 9:01 AM, redbone said: I've not been able to get in touch with anyone regarding the table or the pup pack. I know there's a long history and some consternation over it, but don't know the details of it. I heard VPW was supposed to be working on it too, but also heard it stalled and they aren't. @TerryRed or @gtxjoe can either of you guys give me the OK or recommendation here? @Wylte do you know anything about it? Thanks!!! I don't want to get banned or blackballed in the scene. What's the protocol? Still waiting to release @redbone? @gtxjoeis listed as a free to mod author on vpforums (where you originally got a copy of the table I presume). Please READ the following link: https://www.vpforums.org/index.php?s=ac20e3fb75ef9b61c9b154ead367e36a&showtopic=49086 You have done your due diligence and done everything possible to get permission that you didn't actually require. I'll even paste the vpforums text here: Free to MOD Authors JPSalas - requests MODs of his work are uploaded here.* destruk - requests MODs of his work are uploaded here.* unclewilly StevOz PinballPerson (aka, Leon Spalding/Leo Wanker) freneticamnesic Practicedummy faralos gtxjoe PacDude Sindbad LoadedWeapon javier1515 rascal rob046 bmiki75 Sheltemke teppotee Les73gTx anthias dark (3D models) Inkochnito Shoopity Lord Hiyru ghostmachine (mostly FP on Pin Sim DB) mfuegemann TAB IcePagoda melon hmueck BorgDog unclereamus - requests MODs of his work are uploaded here.* Noah Fentz - requests MODs of his work are uploaded here.* xenonph- requests MODs of his work are uploaded here.* EpeC wiesshund - requests MODs of his work are uploaded here.* Any MODs of their work MUST credit the previous authors. ALL of them. Any tables used that are originally free to MOD are to remain free to MOD, regardless of how many authors and/or versions have been subsequently involved. It is unacceptable to 'lock' down a table that's been modded from something freely given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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