ibjeepin Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Ok so I am new to this, old and forgetfull and now take a lot longer to learn things. That does not mean I dont understand things. Its just that there des noe seem to be a master faq for pin2dmd (or a wiki lik kodi) I have been combing this site and the pin2dmd.com site for days now trying to wade my way through the stuff and now trying to figure out how to get a file to start editing. Let just say I have real pinball machine that I am trying to convert to color and just cant figure out why it so difficult when we have roms why we need to use vpmame ??? or whatever its called to "capture/dump" the video output? What so how do you know you "capture" all the screens? I read some about dll's etc and running vpmame..... holy crap! I am a old ex hacker from the 80's-90s, but nowadays well it just hurts! I'm just good for drinkin beer now! Maybe its the beer thats the problem....... Here is one Best practice is to remove the playfield glass and throw the pinball to activatethe different modes and animations. That way you can get a complete recording of a gameplay from your pinball machine. Is there not a more efficient way to get a dump file for editing from the real machine? What if you dont get all the scenes? How would I know? One would have to activate every level and scenario? I also read a thread by lucky1 on table and that just confused me even more.... now we are patching display roms using bsdiff WTF! I als read something about pinball browser and other apps will they do it? If anyone can point me to a bullet point step by step to get one workin in a real pin it would be great! Signed Confused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider lucky1 Posted April 5, 2017 Content Provider Share Posted April 5, 2017 3 hours ago, ibjeepin said: Is there not a more efficient way to get a dump file for editing from the real machine? There is a simple answer - No !. The problem is that the ROM does not contain full images but only small parts of it (Sprites). These parts get assembled dynamicly during gameplay. Since you need to color the gameplay and we are not able to store additional color information in the ROM, I see no other way. 3 hours ago, ibjeepin said: What so how do you know you "capture" all the screens? You never know, but the good thing is you can add the scene you forgot later using the editor.By the way even ColorDMD has some colorziations which are not finished completely. 3 hours ago, ibjeepin said: I also read a thread by lucky1 on table and that just confused me even more.... now we are patching display roms using bsdiff WTF! That is only working for modern SAM and Spike machines. Thanks to pinballbrowser we have the ability on these machines to store palette information in the ROM and send these via serial port to pin2dmd. 3 hours ago, ibjeepin said: Is there not a more efficient way to get a dump file for editing from the real machine? If you have technically worked out another idea, let us know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjc02002 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Don't worry about getting all of the data at once. when you start playing around with the scenes on a particular machine, you will see that there are some very common scenes, just start with those. on scenes that are very uncommon, maybe you can just set a pallet switch(very simple but very limiting) rather than coloring the scene. I haven't actually completed a color project but I am working on Medieval Madness. I have started by just having a single color pallet(like an original DMD) and just coloring one scene at a time and trying it out on the pinball machine. I have 2 PIN2DMDs one next to my computer and the other in my MM. I just swap the SD card to test out my progress in the machine but use the one near my computer to actively see how it looks while I program it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibjeepin Posted April 7, 2017 Author Share Posted April 7, 2017 can one "record" a real pinball screen while playing onto a laptop through your board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider lucky1 Posted April 7, 2017 Content Provider Share Posted April 7, 2017 2 hours ago, ibjeepin said: can one "record" a real pinball screen while playing onto a laptop through your board? Yes ! It is described here http://pin2dmd.com/tool/ point 1.3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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