AndersE Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 I have looked at pictures and data on these yellow openframe solenoids it seems most people use. But to me they seem to be very small and weak, far from a real pinball solenoid. Are they really enough to make a solid feedback level (not only the sound but the bump feeling in the cab)? Or are the starter solenoids from cars better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imagamejunky Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 A lot of guys (including myself) use Siemens 24V Contactors. There are a number of models that will work. The problem is that they're pretty expensive. I was lucky and able to buy 8 of them used on eBay. They sound great and have a good solid "crack" against the cab. Read this. http://www.vpforums.org/index.php?showtopic=26379 Hope this helps. Junky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imagamejunky Posted March 14, 2016 Share Posted March 14, 2016 I found some for you http://www.ebay.com/itm/Siemens-3RT1016-1BB41-Motor-Starter-Contactor-24-VDC-Coil-3RT10161BB41-/322021046247?hash=item4af9f337e7:g:hbMAAOSw0JpV5H~k Junky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider allknowing2012 Posted March 14, 2016 Content Provider Share Posted March 14, 2016 I use the solenoids you speak of ... I am happy with the results. Its cheap enough to buy a couple - so go for it. Too much bang and you end up kicking off your nudge in the table :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndersE Posted March 15, 2016 Author Share Posted March 15, 2016 I found some for you http://www.ebay.com/itm/Siemens-3RT1016-1BB41-Motor-Starter-Contactor-24-VDC-Coil-3RT10161BB41-/322021046247?hash=item4af9f337e7:g:hbMAAOSw0JpV5H~k Junky Oh my god. Then plus shipping to sweden? No way i pay that. Even carstarter solenoids are cheaper. I'll try those yellow ones. I have seen videos where people put metalbrackets to "clack" against, but the yellow solenoids have their restingpoint out, not in? So how can it "clack" then? Or does the rod go out backways through the coil also? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider allknowing2012 Posted March 16, 2016 Content Provider Share Posted March 16, 2016 I think my video shows it pretty well. When you apply power the backend of the plunger does the banging - if that is what you mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndersE Posted March 16, 2016 Author Share Posted March 16, 2016 Yes that was wthat i meant. Thank you for this clearup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slydog43 Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 I have my cab working fine, but I have started another on and I have a sainsmart usb relay board. Where can I get software to run the sainsmart board for windows, everything I find is for an arduino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider allknowing2012 Posted March 16, 2016 Content Provider Share Posted March 16, 2016 This? http://denkovi.com/usb-8-relay-manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndersE Posted April 27, 2016 Author Share Posted April 27, 2016 I got the solenoids now, and they are more than enough loud I have them knocking at the sides now, but that is too loud so i will move them and have some dampeners on them. Dampeners are needed at the rest side also, because the clack when energized, and clacks the same when going back to rest mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gStAv Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 can you film or at least photo your final setup afterwards Anders? I have the Siemens contactors (8 of them) but thinking of installing som yellow bastards so I can have some different feedback in the cab. Have 6 of them bad boys in a bag under the cab on hold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndersE Posted May 7, 2016 Author Share Posted May 7, 2016 yes i can do that. The way i have it now and get descent "pinball" sound is 3d printed ninjaflex dampeners at the rest position, and metallic cableclips on the hit side. And with slightly different throw on each solenoid i get different sound on all solenoids. I mean a real pinball don't have exactly the same sound on all bumpers.. So some sound more metallic and some more muffled. I don't know how the contactors work with dofconfigs droptarget settings, but these yellow solenoids work great with low droptarget settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebster Posted May 13, 2016 Share Posted May 13, 2016 hey there..i am very interested in how fast they react or even more how fast they react in terms of frequency. fast bumper sequences seem to miss some beats with my "heavy" siemens solenoids. i somehow got around that using the combine toy dof feature.. but it may be even better with the above mentioned modell?!? best regards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndersE Posted June 16, 2016 Author Share Posted June 16, 2016 They also have that problem. Too fast bumpers and they don't have enought time to hit. I Think it is fixable but slightly higher voltage and/or tweaking of the dof code. How does combine toys work then? I haven't got a clue to what it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndersE Posted June 19, 2016 Author Share Posted June 19, 2016 gStAv: here is a video of a friend testing my setup: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNpPF86qD7o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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