BobAlbright Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 I see the new Pirates of the Caribbean requires installation of Sam Pinmame. This is the first I have heard of Sam Pinmame. What is it? Will there be other tables that require it? Will it cause issues with other tables? Do you install it right over the "old 2.5" pinmame? I'm a new cab owner and the last thing I want is to install something that gets me in over my head and causes issues. Thanks guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowter Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 I see the new Pirates of the Caribbean requires installation of Sam Pinmame. This is the first I have heard of Sam Pinmame. What is it? Will there be other tables that require it? Will it cause issues with other tables? Do you install it right over the "old 2.5" pinmame? I'm a new cab owner and the last thing I want is to install something that gets me in over my head and causes issues. Thanks guys It is exactly the same, but with added support for the newer Stern tables (SAM system, introduced in 2006). http://www.pinwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Stern_S.A.M._System_Repair There were no negative side effects of the new pinmame .dll for me. (YMMV) first rule of SAM club, do not talk about SAM club on VPForums.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob5453 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Bob, I know you are an old guy like me. I think you have a VirtuaPin. I would suggest waiting to do this and read many threads here and at VPF on Sam emulation. You aren't missing out on anything except one table currently that has been publicly released here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DStruct Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 I see absolutely no point in waiting. As it was stated previously, there is no difference and I've yet to experience any issues with existing tables. As a bonus, I actually found that Flipper Football's dmd is now displaying on my real dmd, where it wasn't previously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowter Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 I agree with Dstruct, it is only one table so far, but a couple more are on the way. I suggest you only read up on the story surrounding SAM emulation if you get off on internet drama (I do, and this one is very juicy ) If you have basic computer skills than you could give it a go. The changes are easy to revert if things dont work out. Basically it comes down to replacing one file (the pinmame .dll).....adding sam.vbs to your tables folder.....downloading the rom directly from the stern website, renaming the zip file according to the name in the table script................and you are good to go. (on win7 you may have to re-register the .dll with the pinmame setup program). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob5453 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Don't get your panties in a wad, I wasn't saying for anyone else to wait. I was only suggesting "waiting" to someone who is not that familiar with the whole VP process, who is not that tech savvy, who is unsure of what this is, who has a $5k cab that they don't want to fuck up the way it is working for them now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider 85vett Posted October 16, 2013 Content Provider Share Posted October 16, 2013 My suggestion if you aren't sure what you are doing is to make a complete back-up of your Virtual Pinball folder. This way if you mess something up you can just delete the folder and paste your back-up folder in place. I actually back-up my folders after I add new tables. We are talking about computers here and all it takes is for one thing to go wrong with your hard drive and you're starting over. I like the added piece of mind of keeping a copy of my cab files on an external drive too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Dazz Posted October 16, 2013 Administrators Share Posted October 16, 2013 There are several of us that have been running the SAM DLL's for over a year now. I've used it exclusively on my cabinet with no ill effects to any other tables I've tossed at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider Itchigo Posted October 16, 2013 Content Provider Share Posted October 16, 2013 VP is on one drive for me (V:), so I just copy the drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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William Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Google stern pinball roms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Administrators Dazz Posted October 16, 2013 Administrators Share Posted October 16, 2013 Newer - This site does not operate like the other site. Please don't beg people to PM you for support. Please learn to use the search feature of the site before posting threads or asking for support. Please read the following thread: http://vpuniverse.com/forums/topic/828-stern-roms/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newer Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 On other sites like Vp Forum i know where to find ther Roms but i never search roms on other sites i all found on Vp Forum only the Stern Rom not.... Sorry that i asking for help here.... i think its a site who helping people each other.. but okay i never ask again anything here.... Okay thanks alot for your Time Admin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Dazz Posted October 16, 2013 Administrators Share Posted October 16, 2013 Newer - It's ok to ask for help and support on this forum. However, PM'ing or asking people to PM you is not the way to go about it. People don't like to be bothered via PM and they have the option to disable PM'ing in their settings if they so wish. All that we ask is that you search the forums before posting, and don't PM or ask people to PM you for support. If someone has something to offer you then they will either post in the thread or they will PM you directly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobAlbright Posted October 17, 2013 Author Share Posted October 17, 2013 Well thanks for all your input on this new Sam Pinmame thing. Since it's only good for one table at the moment, I think I'll sit back and see what else come aboard with it. As Bob 5453 said, I don't want to F up my cab for one table. And I understand, that it's not that big a deal to make the change, based pm wowfer's comment. AND, LOL, I won't mention anything about it at the "other' site. LOL (This whole animosity thing is crazy!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DStruct Posted October 17, 2013 Share Posted October 17, 2013 It's okay to talk about VPF here. It's not necessarily the same over there. That says something... just not sure what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider arngrim Posted October 17, 2013 Content Provider Share Posted October 17, 2013 we are not kids here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider Itchigo Posted October 17, 2013 Content Provider Share Posted October 17, 2013 It's okay to talk about VPF here. It's not necessarily the same over there. That says something Says something to me..... It says we've moved on and ley them go. It says we're only concerned about furthering the hobby, and not making a business out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider oooPLAYER1ooo Posted October 18, 2013 Content Provider Share Posted October 18, 2013 you can say vpforums as much as you like here here i'll even do one better http://www.vpforums.org go there use the site we have no issue promoting it, its just they dont want anybody to know about here, not sure why we are no threat to that site IMHO as far as obtaining the roms all you need to do is go to source http://www.sternpinball.com/game-code.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider unclewilly Posted October 19, 2013 Content Provider Share Posted October 19, 2013 I've been running the Sam.dll since destruk released it for the ultrapin. No I'll effects. Anita has actually improved on the original and updated it to the current pinmame version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider Itchigo Posted October 20, 2013 Content Provider Share Posted October 20, 2013 I literally just got home from the expo. I talked to Gary, and he said he didn't want anything "new" recreated. He didn't say how old it had to be to be ok though, and he had a line forming around him, so I wasn't able to get any deeper than that. He spoke about the biggest threat being people having "apps" or their phones. He said people playing on their phones won't make them want to go out and play pinball, if they can play it on their phone. My dad, a longtime operator, has said the same exact thing about I-phones. I even saw a "controller" that you plug your I-phone into that turns it into a minicab. A concept I had been exploring (cabs for operators) he also said wasn't viable, that it would be a losing venture for whoever tried it. He didn't think the quality of play was good enough to make that work. This is for whatever it's worth, take it as you want. I'm not saying do or don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Dazz Posted October 20, 2013 Administrators Share Posted October 20, 2013 Why would you even bring it up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider DeeGor Posted October 20, 2013 Content Provider Share Posted October 20, 2013 Like I thought. Gary doesn't give a shit. New stuff is probably anything he's still selling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider Itchigo Posted October 20, 2013 Content Provider Share Posted October 20, 2013 That's kind of how I took it too, anything he's selling right then. We were talking for a while before he gave his speech in the autograph room. I was there getting my design signed, and ran into him. I've been working on a designer's gig, but I need to learn CAD first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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