Content Provider CarnyPriest Posted May 29, 2018 Author Content Provider Share Posted May 29, 2018 oh, you are correct. Still, it works better for my laptop to set to False. I'm using the laptop display, Intel HD 4000. Not the greatest. My mistake, FastFlips for Tron is for upcoming 2.1 release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g5k Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 10 hours ago, CarnyPriest said: oh, you are correct. Still, it works better for my laptop to set to False. I'm using the laptop display, Intel HD 4000. Not the greatest. My mistake, FastFlips for Tron is for upcoming 2.1 release. Tron 2.1 was uploaded to MB tonight so should be available this week. Thanks to Rob and all those involved in making the SAM update happen and FF for Tron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesperpark Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 FastFlips for all Stern games?? Awesome work everybody Great to see all the people who had a hand in pushing the development, also keeping everything together over the years. A big thanks to everyone who has contributed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slydog43 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Not sure if its VPinMAME or not, but I can't start a game of teedOff. I hear the coins going in, but the credits don't increment. I tried deleting the nvram, but still same issue. vpx and vp9 version act the same. Can any one else start a game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider CarnyPriest Posted May 30, 2018 Author Content Provider Share Posted May 30, 2018 Try this? http://www.vpforums.org/index.php?app=downloads&showfile=1362 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slydog43 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 thanks for the quick reply, but still same issue. Can you start teed off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider CarnyPriest Posted May 31, 2018 Author Content Provider Share Posted May 31, 2018 Someone else will have to chime in on teedoff. My cab is down. I just did a fresh install on my laptop in preparation for figuring out DOF and Pin2DMD. For Tron I'm able to set UseVPMModSol to True if I turn off most of the Video enhancements. I'm very late to the party but I've got the Tron PupPack working, Whoa! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJRobX Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 No fast flips is not auto-magic. It probably could be for most tables, but I'd rather not break something trying. UseVPMModsol is for modulated flashers - generally turning this on won't hurt anything, but needs table support to do something useful. Tables like ACDC/LE have supported this from the get-go. Fast flips is something different. To use fast flips, first update your SAM.VBS with this one. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1T8eI076hLSpSsc-__TQNIg-K7mlpdbE9/view?usp=sharing then at the end of table init sub, add this line: InitVpmFFlipsSAM That should be it. So for example, in ACDC/LE, scroll down to around line 230, and make it look like this: 'Other Suff InitOptions:InitBell:InitCannon:InitDiverters InitVpmFFlipsSAM End Sub As a reminder - AC/DC 1.68h is what's supported at this time, not 1.70. If someone ever color patches 1.70 I'll look into doing it. If you are a table author updating a table, you may want to have it read: On Error Resume Next InitVpmFFlipsSAM On Error Goto 0 This will keep your table compatible with older sam.vbs. If you are an end-user just add the one line. If you get an error you'll know that sam.vbs wasn't updated correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider CarnyPriest Posted May 31, 2018 Author Content Provider Share Posted May 31, 2018 trn_174h Thanks, seems to work well for me. At least I think I'm doing it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider CarnyPriest Posted May 31, 2018 Author Content Provider Share Posted May 31, 2018 Grab the updated SAM.VBS in the link two posts above this one. official rev r4515 SAMBuild_r4515.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottT Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 I think I've done this all correctly. Is there a way to test to confirm fast flips is working? What specific behaviour am I looking for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slydog43 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 you can hit F11 and check the left flipper timing after a game is started. mine went down from 18ms to 2ms, incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcadeGamer Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 On 5/30/2018 at 7:30 PM, slydog43 said: thanks for the quick reply, but still same issue. Can you start teed off? No problem here with Teed Off. nvram attached teedoff3.nv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottT Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Whoa! Thanks for explaining that to me, slydog43! MAJOR DIFFERENCE! I checked this on my desktop PC, and am seeing 0.2- 0.3 ms to rotate, whereas it was 20 something before. I still need to check this out on my cab, which has a lesser graphics card, more monitors, etc. Specifically, I have an i7, 16GB RAM, GTX 1050 on my single monitor desktop. An i7, 16GB RAM, GTX 960 on my 3 monitor cab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottT Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 And... Scared Stiff 1.4 vs. 1.31 was a drop from 18ms to 1.3 ms. Amazing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcadeGamer Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 I updated ACDC and Tron and they also went sub 2ms! I tried Indiana Jones and TWD but no luck. Is there a way to know which tables can support this enhancement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider CarnyPriest Posted June 1, 2018 Author Content Provider Share Posted June 1, 2018 45 minutes ago, coreduo0099 said: I updated ACDC and Tron and they also went sub 2ms! I tried Indiana Jones and TWD but no luck. Is there a way to know which tables can support this enhancement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJRobX Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Only the LE TWD 1.60h is supported for fast flips (hacks like the Cleland rom are fine) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcadeGamer Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 1 hour ago, DJRobX said: Only the LE TWD 1.60h is supported for fast flips (hacks like the Cleland rom are fine) grr. looked for over an hour.. can't find 1.60h but have 1.60 and 1.56h. I've scanned the 'universe' and stern's site or am not building the zip correctly.. what should be in the twd_160h.zip ? just twd_160h.bin (which I can't find)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcadeGamer Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 1 hour ago, CarnyPriest said: awesome.. will work on those... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider CarnyPriest Posted June 1, 2018 Author Content Provider Share Posted June 1, 2018 http://www.sternpinball.com/game-code/game-code-the-walking-dead-le rename to twd_160h.bin and zip it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcadeGamer Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 16 minutes ago, CarnyPriest said: http://www.sternpinball.com/game-code/game-code-the-walking-dead-le rename to twd_160h.bin and zip it up. Thanks, I thought that was 1.60 is the naming convention that the LE version of the rom is the "h"? down to 2ms! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thalamus Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 DjRobX has done so much for SAM emulation !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcadeGamer Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Next one.. Family Guy from 10/21/2017 timeframe seems to use fg1200af and putting the new script additions kills the flippers. Tried Const cGameName = "fg_1200" instead of "fg_1200af" and renamed rom and rom contents to fg_1200 but no luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcadeGamer Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Phew, got through the whole list... Awesome Improvement! I did not see any speedup in Avengers or WPT. (no vpx transformers or Batman Dark Knight I can find), Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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