Mameman Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Ran across this today while down south on vacation. It's including 85 tables.. http://charlotte.craigslist.org/bfd/4616943030.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider freneticamnesic Posted August 14, 2014 Content Provider Share Posted August 14, 2014 Flagged it. Shame about all that cause it's a beautiful machine otherwise! He should know better, though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider arngrim Posted August 14, 2014 Content Provider Share Posted August 14, 2014 what is the problem if it is a private sale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider freneticamnesic Posted August 14, 2014 Content Provider Share Posted August 14, 2014 It's not, he's advertising as a business. But either way, even for private sales you have no way of proving that the value is in the hardware and not the software, and if there's any indication that the value is in the software, you run into a ton of legality issues with selling it. In this case, many many people may find value in the games being included. There's so many people who just want to buy a machine and have it work without having to install anything. Unless you're selling an UltraPin with licensed game recreations, you're selling it illegally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randr Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 It has sharkys shoutout pre installed? Worth every penny of 4k! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider freneticamnesic Posted August 14, 2014 Content Provider Share Posted August 14, 2014 You haven't played sharkeys have you LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randr Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Lol! Yes I have...lol! Your version is better than the real machine no doubt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowsclassic Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 The only thing wrong with your sharkey's is what was stated to begin with, the spider lady gets on your last nerve pretty fast. If you had and option to substiture her speech with Elvira's "Don't touch me there!" it would be perfect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider DeeGor Posted August 16, 2014 Content Provider Share Posted August 16, 2014 Better flag all the virtuapins as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider oooPLAYER1ooo Posted August 18, 2014 Content Provider Share Posted August 18, 2014 sweet, none of my tables made his cut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randr Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 sweet, none of my tables made his cut Shows he has no taste for tables! Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider Rascal Posted August 19, 2014 Content Provider Share Posted August 19, 2014 Better flag all the virtuapins as well. Yeah had a dude come in chat trying to get some SAM tables running that said he just bought a VirtuaPin straight from the factory with 75 games loaded. We know how respectful VirtuaPin is to the community and authors, so this must be an allowed action now. Of course this was just one guy talking in chat, so you can believe it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loafmeister Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 You never know on preloaded games, people change their minds, but there's no way I'm going to believe he'd preload a Sam game on his cabs lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider Rascal Posted August 19, 2014 Content Provider Share Posted August 19, 2014 You never know on preloaded games, people change their minds, but there's no way I'm going to believe he'd preload a Sam game on his cabs lol No the SAMs tables were not in the list of preloaded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loafmeister Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Sorry, I can see now the way you worded it doesn't say that. My misunderstanding rascal. I'd still find it hard to believe though but whatever, only ones who know are the seller and the buyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider DeeGor Posted August 20, 2014 Content Provider Share Posted August 20, 2014 I've heard about it on several different occasions. I don't really see how it's much different than what he's doing right now with the website. He's essentially selling them right now with the memberships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowsclassic Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Hmm, and I got my ass ripped originally for asking if you could find tables packaged up in a torrent. Fortunatly, IRC was a lot friendlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loafmeister Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 In the emulation world and in the Eula it's usually the norm to not include roms with the emulator/simulators. I believe this is the basis why it's frowned on, as well as the obvious grey area of selling content you don't own. Don't recall about torrents though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider DeeGor Posted August 20, 2014 Content Provider Share Posted August 20, 2014 I don't mind torrents. That's how a lot of people get into the hobby to begin with. VPF hates them because it takes away potential membership money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RNunez187 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Once I found VP and got it installed, I found a torrent and downloaded like 700+ tables. I still have it on my HD. Did the same for MAME and others also. I don't see a problem with it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loafmeister Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Torrents: that's a good point and I don't doubt that factors in but at the old vpf.com some AUTHORS told me they didn't want torrent because t was a bitch to handle the complaints of why x table doesn't work, so no torrents was a wish by some of them for version control. There are also some who believe torrents prevent members from becoming contributing members (not money, assitance/become authors, etc). Personally I like torrents because they take a load of the hardware costs/bandwidth but I see things differently than many others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider Rascal Posted August 21, 2014 Content Provider Share Posted August 21, 2014 First came MAME for me and the pursuit to have it all. Then I played with just PINMAME (just the ROMs) and thought this is stupid. Then I found a torrent and a magic program within called Visual Pinball, made by some cartoon character call Randy Davis. Soon I was on the internet highway searching for anything to do with Visual Pinball. My MAME collection started falling behind, but I had pinball. Read my book, Rascal And The Torrent From Hell. It's a compelling story about how one person spiraled down from a clean cut sun worshiper into a cave dwelling pastey white emulator addict, and got caught up in a community cult of pinball fanatics that thought they knew everything and had bad attitudes to boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider Itchigo Posted August 21, 2014 Content Provider Share Posted August 21, 2014 LOL Rascal. I have no issue with torrents. If someone came to me and said my table didn't work the first thing I'd ask is do you have the latest one? If all they had was the torrent that would stop it right there. Just like the other things on the internet, the only people who have issues with torrents are the ones making money from said content. I've had a few comments and messages on my cabinet backup that's it saved so much work, not to have to change a few lines on 500 tables. There's your answer on torrents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowsclassic Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Yeah, the argument of version control is silly when you look at how hard it is to look through some of the various tables trying to find the most recent version year. Then when you go to down it you have to figure out which version number is the most recent. Sometimes that can be a real challenge. I used torrents a lot with MAME and if you use MAME you know how things get changed en mass alot and you have to update tons of roms. I'm way out of date on that just due to the massive size of a full set of MAME these days. Point is I have (Mostly) learned what egg shells not to step on over at VPF, but my tongue bleeds a lot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Content Provider DeeGor Posted August 22, 2014 Content Provider Share Posted August 22, 2014 It's pretty pathetic that you have to walk on eggshells to begin with. Paul AKA Noah is a bully. Look at the way he talks to people in his posts. He gets off on berating people, like they're all little kids or something. The guy is a liar and a scumbag, and I'll be laughing my ass off one day when he gets sued for selling the tables as he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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